This doesnt add up... If the software was properly encrypted they shouldn't have been able to carry out a man in the middle attack right?

Yeah blame it on hotel internet, not their shitty communication service that's not encrypted.

"I think that's a good lesson for everybody: never use hotel internet if you want to do a secure call," Germany's ambassador to the UK, Miguel Berger, told the BBC this week.

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The exact mode of dial-in is "still being clarified", Germany has said.

OK, well the exact mode kinda fucking matters before you just scapegoat a hotel.

This smells like a coverup.

In a world where I can deploy end to end encrypted comms servers to an old computer in my house, the fucking military of any country should, at a minimum, require encryption to join meetings where military strategy is being discussed.

End to end encryption

USE IT

They can discuss missile targets but they don't know how to set a secure comm channel, it makes me wonder... how old were they? why don't they give a device with pre-installed VPN (incl. Killswitch) to all certain-rank officials and get done with this?...

an especially secure, certified version

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This happened because of an unintended backdoor into an end to end encrypted conversation.

The British Government are actively trying to get back doors put into end to end encryption by law.

They are doing this so they can spy on their own citizens to ostensibly make Britain safer.

But as you can see, it actually would make it less safe.

This is what happens without E2EE.

What an amazing feat of incompetence! They’d be better off just using Signal…

They’d be quantum proof as well 😅 https://signal.org/blog/pqxdh/

I don't see how it matters if you use hotel WiFi or mobile if the mobile mast you connect to is controlled by a hostile government.

What matters is what you were sending wasn't secured at source.

Although Wikipedia tells you the range and I'm pretty sure even Russia have access to maps and a compass.

How is it possible to accomplish a man in the middle attack on a TLS secure connection ? Hotel wifi or not, unless something major like Singaporean gov interfered with the connection, forced forged certificates into his phone, I don't see how this was put off by compromising the connection .

I bet they are covering for the Fact that one of them has downloaded malware into his device to masturbate to a hot girl living next to him kinda ad. and then malware shared back that data to Russia. or they have a spy among them and Germany isn't ready to admit having its defense forces compromised with Russian assets.

It is fine if you use unprotected wifi and then connect to a VPN.

Isn't like very basic security advice to not use random connections for sensitive information? But than again it's Germany, pretty sure he has his password written down on a sticky note.

EvE Online should be mandatory training for anyone with a security clearance. Minimum of six months in Goonswarm, Pandemic Horde, Fraternity, or The Initiative.

https://cad-comic.com/comic/one-of-us/

That's only a slight exaggeration. I had a "chat" with one of our intel officers at one point due to a IRL purchase of PLEX.

Edit: maybe just Goonswarm. They do the intelligence and spy stuff the best.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

He sounds relaxed on the line as he chats with two colleagues about the "mega" view from his room, and how he's just come back from a drink at a nearby hotel where there's an incredible swimming pool.

Over the next 40 minutes, the group appear to touch upon highly sensitive military issues, including the ongoing debate over whether Germany should send Taurus cruise missiles to Ukraine.

The four participants discussed what targets German-made Taurus missiles could potentially hit if Chancellor Olaf Scholz ever allowed them to be sent to Kyiv - a contentious issue in Germany.

"You have to choose a certain kind of disguise for this disaster," says Mr Kiesewetter, who's also worked at the Nato military alliance and is a member of Germany's opposition conservative CDU party.

But German government figures find suggestions that they are somehow soft on Russia increasingly irritating, particularly because Berlin has donated more weapons aid to Ukraine than any other nation in Europe.

It's further exposed domestic divisions about whether to send Taurus missiles to Ukraine and prompted a wider discussion about the country's perceived defence and security weaknesses.

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