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Finally got rid of telegram, congratulations to me (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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It was a many months transition, and it's finally done

Fun thing, you can actually make a backup of all* your messages, groups, contacts, etc. So before leaving you can have all of your data in case you need that one contact or something

The final red flag was as that allegedly Russian authorities were messing with people's deleted messages. Not for the first time there are news that they could read, modify, delete, see location, and etc. Screw it, this is unsafe, I'm out.

Also, these days telegram is really at the state of a pile of garbage, bloated, buggy, and shady messenger.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (10 children)

Honestly, signal is the only thing I would ideally use. But whatsapp is still a better second messenger than telegram.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I miss Wikr

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I'm glad I never used it

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

I will probably up this one, it's really a lot of materials, and articles, and news if you read behind all this war and politics stuff

You should really search, I tried to compile all I could find, but I'm here to stop using tg, not going back to tg and scroll Russian opposition channels for all the mentions of stuff like that

There are some articles in English that describe the events, but most of them are in Russian

Also, from the search it's really hard to find anything because a lot of stuff about the war

Here are a few topics:

Telegram leaking location
Telegram leaking IP address
Deleted many years ago chats/messages were recovered remotely (just recently)
Telegram is delaying source code publishing
The source code's build has a different hash and a few mb smaller than the release
Their data sharing reports are empty although they were openly giving data to authorities in e.g. Germany

Compilation of different technical vulnerabilities and issues of telegram(in Russian):

And in general, Russian government unbanned tg after it realized it can read it. I wouldn't trust anything that was unbanned in Russia or China

And one more article that lists issues of telegram: https://emisare.medium.com/так-ли-безопасен-telegram-f5a3128a1311

I'm already tired of doing this, I didn't even start on activists and how they get hacked and stuff

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Gonna have to disagree. Telegram is the ONLY chat app with ACTUALLY NATIVE code clients on desktop and mobile. Its the only one that isn't website in a box trash that's slow heavy and buggy. I use discord mostly because it's where everyone is but i fucking hate everything about it and wish people would use telegram.

If you think other chat apps don't read/process metadata from your dms and such your an idiot. Nothing is safe short of self hosted matrix with full E2E encryption or similar and ain't nobody doing that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

My brother, XMPP existed before Web 2.0 where after the cost-cutting way to ship an app was a browser option (browser options help accessibility tho)—where Electron was the most egregious RAM stealer. OMEMO has been around for multi-client double ratchet e2ee since 2015. An ejabberd server can be tuned to handle 2 million simultaneous connects—Synapse folds over like lawnchair at a single user joining a room with a medium-length history.

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