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How to go about reporting/fixing ~~this~~ Nextcloud ~~bug with the navigation bar~~.
NextCloud is pile of garbage, filled with bugs, wired behaviors and basic UX problems that any designer or developer with half a brain cell would not have made. It's also a project that constantly promises everything and anything and ends up under delivering like no other.
Before anyone bitches around, yes, it hurts, deal with it cause it's true.
Hey, you dont get to talk about my flaming pile of garbage like that.
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Honest question… Is there a better alternative?
It just doesn’t work. You click to add a bullet list and it doesn’t get added, that’s over the line. And yes every webmail under the sun is better than what NC has to offer. Roundcube is 1000 times better than NC.
Roundcube is a webmail. NC is much more than that. It is not even an alternative, let alone a better one.
Maybe that’s the problem with NC? It tries to do everything and isn’t good at anything. What’s the point of having a webmail on NC if it can’t style a basic ul? FYI there are a ton of Roundcube plugins to add calendars, contacts, notes and file sync to it. I’m not saying NC isn’t interesting, it is, but it also doesn’t deliver a viable option to Google or Office 365 due to those bugs.
I totally get where you're coming from and if there was a lean and stable app for files, calendar, contacts and tasks I would be very happy to check it out. But last time I searched there wasn't anything I would trust.
Also, it looks like roundcube is now part of nextcloud 🤷
if there was a lean and stable app for files, calendar, contacts and tasks
There is, but it isn't a single app, it's a collection of different services. Maybe it should always be like that.
Also, it looks like roundcube is now part of nextcloud 🤷
Yes, my question on that is: what should we expect now? To have RC as NextCloud's default e-mail interface OR to get RC filled with mindless bugs and crappy features/decisions?
Also, what about Kolab https://kolab.org / https://kolabnow.com? Besides providing e-mail hosting they seem to be the ones pushing the development of RC and essential plugins that are somehow competition for NextCloud.
if there was a lean and stable app for files, calendar, contacts and tasks
Fair enough, I guess, but what if I wanna selfhost?
Roundcube for email. FileBrower to access your files. Baikal or Radicale as contacts and calendar server (there are plugins to show the info inside Roundcube as well).
Ironically, RoundCube is now owned by Nextcloud.
I use the SnappyMail app for email on NC. It is way faster than their own Mail app, which in my opinion is too slow, specially if you connect to multiple email addresses.
I use the SnappyMail app for email on NC. It is way faster than their own Mail app, which in my opinion is too slow, specially if you connect to multiple email addresses.
I think the UX of Nextcloud is pretty good. I'll admit that it definitely takes some time to figure out how to host, and its PHP design can be a pain. But I still think it works pretty well.
How come you consider this "good UX"?
Nextcloud is widely thought to be too desperate to push new features onto their corporate product for PR and then fail to fix an ever growing list of bugs. Their ver. 28 was utterly full of bugs, even more so than regular.
They also may push a feature/app only to abandon it later. I am running an instance and if I see something else that is comparable, I would consider switching.
Never tried to colab part but the maps in your link is live. I have the app. Is no Google Maps but is not crap either.
PS: I am on 27.X , will not be moving to 28 for a while. Too many issues.
Yeah, i have been using nextcloud for 4 years or so. Never had an actual breaking bug. 28.2. Nextcloud will simply not work anymore. It has 0 error messages in the log, everything will initialize, but I simply can't connect and log in to it. The log in screen does not show up.
Not only that, but when I leave it running now, it literally almost brings down my entire reverse proxy stack and I can't access anything from the outside world without a 30 second delay.
My 28.2 has literally nuked itself and everything around it. Since NC doesn't support downgrading, I am just fucked.