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It really grinds my gears when there’s an c/asklemmy question and the top most responses are single word answers.

For example, a question asking for the most mind-bending movie will often have the same few movies upvoted to the top (β€œThe Matrix”, β€œInception”, β€œFinding Nemo 2”, etc).

Those truly might be the most popular mind-bending movies, but what I really want to know is why the person answering the question feels the way that they do. Otherwise these types of questions can become stale very quickly, as can be seen on other platforms.

Thoughts?

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

You're asking for a much more intense "quality control" kind of moderation that is one of the reasons Reddit is sinking. That's asking for a lot more mod actions, which is a lot more time spent moderating, and also results in some degree of subjective application of rules for "quality". Heavy mod workloads and subjective decisions tends to drive good, well-balanced mods away (they have actual lives to lead with less time to mod) and only attracts the shitstains with nothing better to do who mod for their own personal power.

Downvote a comment if it isn't contributory. That's what the button is for (not a "I disagree").

Edit: also many of those one word answers spawn a lot of good discussion underneath them. So they're not always totally worthless

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

There's no way to add an automated rule -> if c/asklemmy then comment should have 5 words minimum else don't allow reply?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

No no no no no.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There’s not even a way to count words at this juncture never mind anything resembling a rules engine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If() comment<5 words;

 Ban user

Else();

Post comment
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That’s what the button is for (not a β€œI disagree”).

You know, maybe we just need more than one button.

"Does not contribute to the discussion", "I disagree", "I don't necessarily disagree but this person aligns to a different political ideology and therefore I feel the need to object to their presence in some way"...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As long as they answer the OP, they're valid. It's up to others to ask follow up questions, if they want more discussion.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I think a question that gets 1-word answers is not a well written question.

Your question can be a yes or no but it'll only generate valuable discussion if you ad "and why"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I don't have a particularly strong opinion - my first thought is that it conflicts with "loosely moderated". If people have upvoted an answer, I'm happy to let that stand.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You want descriptive answers? Make a descriptive question.

It can be as simple as 'what is "x" and why?'

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Missed opportunity for you to say 'what is "x" and y?'

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

On the one hand, I want to upvote you because funny.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I don't see it being necessary. Good questions will get good answers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Affirmative

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

If enough people think that a simple "yay" is funny enough to be upvoted near the top it probably is. If it is not upvoted it is not really a problem. Sure they are low-effort comments but in the age of ChatGPT, you can also write low-effort answers that are much longer. It is the voter's responsibility, not the moderator's, to separate interesting posts from non-interesting ones.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

For my part, I prefer precise answers. If I only ask about a film, I don't expect to be told what feelings the film triggers in you or what chips are best to nibble with it. If you want to know that, formulate the question accordingly :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Finding Nemo 2" is a 3 word answer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

False. "2" is a number and not a word.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Finding Nemo two

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Then it's a 2 word, and 1 number answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

False; it's a proper noun encompassing one object.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

So downvote those answers, or engage with the commenter in other ways

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah. Some questions are so dumb, bad, or tedious that they deserve a curt response. I totally get what youre getting at tho

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
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