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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Check out Cory Doctorow's post on a term he coined called enshittification. Good primer to some of the same patterns we are seeing.

I believe there is another comment that breaks down a supposition for Reddit's enshittificationw, too, in this thread.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You can provide quality services only for so long. Eventually quality will get in the way of profits.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Money. It really is that simple.

Reddit wanted to kill third party apps because they have ad blocking features and don't show unwarranted sponsored posts. Reddit wants to serve users as much ads and sponsored content as possible, which was not really able to happen with third party apps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The other issue to consider is MBAs. Or at least the MBA way of thinking, that "caring about customers" actually means "leaving money on the table." The relentless search for "business efficiency," evaluated in pure accounting terms, can easily lead to destroying the core business due to a lack of understanding of how the core business shows up on a P&L statement.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Any company with a MBA at the helm always seem to make poor choices. Look at the all the companies that have started switching back to engineers for leadership they've started making comebacks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Check out Cory Doctorow's post on a term he coined called enshittification.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Cory Doctorow termed it "Enshittification", and wrote about the process here: https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I'm glad I read through the whole thing.

Bummed that I won't be winning a testicle 😰

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I'm glad I read through the whole thing.

Bummed that I won't be winning a testicle 😰

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

capitalism β€” they want more money

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interest rates go up. Quantitative Easing go down.

They might have to play with real money lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is it. For nearly 15 years money was basically free for tech companies. Banks don't pay anything, bonds don't pay anything, the stock market is overheated and investors are still looking for return. So if your tech company was already public you could borrow in the form of bank loans or bonds for dirt cheap and if it was still privately held you can get money from individual and corporate investors.

Now that the free money era is over a lot of companies have had to finally think about making a profit so that they can keep the lights on. This is why there have been tens of thousands laid off in the tech sector in the last year or so.

As far as Reddit goes I have no idea what they've been thinking. It seems like they've been spending money developing features nobody wants or needs: locally hosted images and video which have to cost a fortune, live chat, and NFTs, to name a few. They've got the ~20th most popular website in the world with millions of daily active users and they can't figure out how to make it profitable?

The API the third party applications used doesn't serve ads. All they had to do for a bump in revenue is to insert ads and require third party applications to display them or risk losing their API access. Users would grumble but it's a pretty reasonable ask. The fact that they didn't do this demonstrates to me that they don't think the money is in serving ads, they think it's in data mining and they can only get the data they want from the official app.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Dr. Capitalism, or How I listened to stop worrying and love the dollar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The user bubble has popped now that investors started questioning why the fuck they’ve been investing huge amounts of money into companies that make no money just because they have lots of users. With that investment money drying up, these tech companies are desperate to start making a profit so they can survive and grow their value still.

TLDR: investment in unprofitable tech companies is drying up and companies that aren’t profitable are scrambling to make money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I feel like they all see the inevitability that AI will drastically change the money model very soon. And it will not be to their profit, so best make every penny they can right now is their mentality.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stupidity and greed, a great combination!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not necessarily greed. The infrastructure to keep Reddit alive can't be cheap. How do you pay for that? VC money has dried up so these services that have been free to users are all quickly scrambling to make money. I definitely think they did it wrong. They should have planned the API fee changes out for years instead of trying to force it in a month.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They make money by serving adds to the people providing their site content.

And no, that is not what happened. They were trying to increase their valuation for future share holders.

Edit: adding it is the only greed, that is the reason.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm wondering if it's a domino effect. Now that one major company made an announcement that fucks over their users, they're all doing it. We even now have YouTube cracking down on Adblockers. The Golden Era is coming to an end imo

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

This basically. Companies see that others can do it without consequences and so they do too. The age of acting like your "friend" is over and they are gonna squeeze ever last cent they can from users. Twitter, Reddit , YouTube, discord. I expect to see smaller players doing the same soon.

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