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Kind of a broad question. I wonder why people take notes - Is it for studies or learning? Is it just to remember things? Is it to make your own map of your knowledge? Is it because you just want a place to vent out your feelings into the void?

What do you use to accomplish that? App? Paper? A chat room?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I wonder why people take notes

It improves recall and comprehension.

Is it for studies or learning? Is it just to remember things? Is it to make your own map of your knowledge?

Yeppers.

What do you use to accomplish that? App? Paper?

Usually use paper, but GoodNotes is also a good app for this. Combine Cornell Notes with the method of loci and other advanced memory systems (Google Books link) for best results. Huge game changer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I take notes in markdown using Obsidian. I tend to forget things that have happened (or when they happened) unless I am reminded of it, so I keep a daily journal. I also save any good recipes, how I fixed a programming bug or a software issue, just anything I learn that I want to save, or any ideas that I want to remember for later.

I can also quickly search my notes and it's like a mini personal search engine, it's amazing.

I used to write my journal in a private wordpress blog hosted on my computer, and I had so many random text files in so many different folders I could never find them when I needed them, so I'm really happy this program exists 😭

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I'm in college so I take notes on every lecture. Not only does it help me remember things in the moment, it's easy to go back in the future and study for tests. I use MS word and my laptop, mostly because I type a lot faster than I write. Yes, I do know that writing has been proven to be more effective, but my handwriting is really bad and I just cannot write fast enough to take quality notes. I'd much prefer to forget something while studying and be able to quickly go back and understand it, as opposed to my handwriting where I can barely read it hours after I wrote it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Personally, it’s with very specific information that I can’t fit in to some sort of train of thought.

Like a specific date, a specific number, a specific name. Nah, that’s not gonna stick and I need to write it down.

If I can fit it in to a narrative or a train of thought I can remember it shockingly well, but it needs to be something that I can cross link to a bunch of other information as well.

If it’s something that just kinda stands out as a single data point, I’m going to forget it, so I gotta write it down.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use it for all the reasons you've mentioned. I especially write down recommendations, ideas, thoughts that felt worth noticing, anything I think I'm going to forget that doesn't go on my calendar or somewhere else, and braindumping/processing my feelings.

I use an app called Logseq, because it combines the things I wanted from some of the other main apps in one place, which none of the other apps manage to do all of:

  • Outliner structure like Notion or Roam or Workflowy lets you have (my brain requires this format when taking notes)
  • Super fast page linking search, which Notion kinda sucks at but others are better at
  • Data is stored on my computer, like Obsidian; not in the cloud. It's stored as markdown (ish) by default.
  • Automatic daily page created for each day, like Roam
  • Mobile app is almost 1-1 feature parity with the desktop app, like Notion
  • Open source (mostly)

Logseq does have a moderate amount of rough edges, and has been frustrating from an open source perspective at times (I've had PRs linger for over a year before just getting rejected because they didn't want to bother with it), but it's still the one I like the most.

FYI though syncing between devices with it is still pretty shaky. They have a native sync for $5/mo that is getting reasonably good, and is in beta. Syncing files via other means is kinda risky/not-great UX.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Helps me remember things. Definitely prefer paper.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I take digital notes in Apple Notes for knowledge and facts that should be quickly searchable and there is no need for me to remember it.

I maintain multiple digital knowledge graphs (vaults) in Obsidian.md for more complicated and interconnected information, like my work, software development, hobbies etc.

The rest is kept on paper.

Quick notes that I need to take during phone calls or conversations go into one of my Traveller’s Notebook inserts.

I’ve also started using a “concepts” notebook (another TN insert) where I note down new concepts (one per line, without explanation or elaboration, e.g. “acropalypse”, “goodhart’s law”). This helps me with remembering them better, as long as I go through my previous notes regularly and look up things that I no longer can recall.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I used to have two separate note systems, a journal and linear academic notes. Journal was always free-form and digital; academic notes started on paper using the Cornell method and moved to digital a couple of years ago.

Very recently I’ve moved to a digital Zettelkasten via Obsidian.md and I’ve basically combined the two, previously separate, systems.

Journal type entries are still kept generally segregated from my Zettels, but cross-linking can now happen.

My specific speed at digital note-taking has always been good, but what was lacking before was the a ability to backlink, which is a substantial strength in Obsidian.

Imagine your own personal Wikipedia for the bits of knowledge relevant only to you. That’s Obsidian. If you need a framework, that’s Zettelkasten.

But to answer your additional questions, I take notes to reference and retain. I’ve never been able to trust my complete memory recall, but I can usually recall a cue or keyword. With notes, especially digital notes, a cue or keyword search will get me right to what was on the edge of my mind. This has been especially helpful as I work on my undergrad, and as I move into the portion of my undergrad requiring more research, I anticipate large dividends from my Zettelkasten.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't do notes outside of work (where I use Microsoft OneNote to make notes of meetings and any coding training/code) but I keep many lists.

At work I also use Rocketbook, which is a physical notebook you can reuse. You upload the notes to the cloud and then wipe off. It's great.

In terms of Lists though, they pretty much run my life. Lists of books to read, lists of things I see that my family might like for Christmas (so I'm never stuck not knowing what to get them), lists of places I want to go, films to see, pro/con lists, etc. I use Google Keep but probably going to start looking for a FOSS alternative

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I still takes notes at work meetings. Mostly so that I dont forget what was agreed or what I'm supposed to be doing.

Outside or work, I make tons of lists. I find them really helpful to know what needs doing and what needs prioritising.

Notewise, I use an old fashioned notepad + desktop stickies. For my life lists I use Simple note.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Lists and planning notes. Got a million ideas wants and needs, if I want them to all get done then they need to go somewhere! But it can just be something basic and vague, like "top of side panel" will mean enough for me to come back to it months later and remember what the plan was. Most of it is cleaning/organizational.

Paper, unless it's not nearby I'll just make a list in google notes but otherwise I'll always do a wide page.

Title, intent, then split the page based on what you decide. I just organized our towel/medicine/petfood closet and freed up 2 1/2 shelves just writing out what was there and making a mockup.

Currently in the process of writing out and compiling my PC rebuilds since it involves moving main hard drives to different motherboards ;( excited but also not, lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
  • In meetings at work, for my actions or actions that I need to follow up on etc. If I am prepared, I will add them to an existing document that we are working from in the meeting or will create a specific actions email as we go. If I am not prepared, it will be notes jotted in a physical notebook. In either case, I will then copy any actions for me to MS TO Do - which is one of the very few relevant apps that we have available on both the locked down phones and laptops. Just occasionally, it is more appropriate to make notes directly in the TO Do app.

  • Generally for non-work stuff, I will use Google tasks - since it available on all platforms and integrates with the calendar etc. I would love to find a good alternative to google and have tried a few over the years, but have never found anything that I can get to at work and on all platforms at home and will integrate with a calendar that is also available on all platforms - including those that my SO uses - as well as this.

The majority of notes that I make these days are either things that I have to do or are updates on the status of particular projects or systems though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I take note for almost everything from Journaling about my day, keeping information about work, assignment to making some sort of 'wiki' for my personal world building materials. I have ADHD so keeping note help me lifting some burden out of my brain. (Which they tend to forget a lot) I also learn and remember better when I write thing down.

I kind of not settled what I want to stick with yet but I don't think I will find one fit all solution for my needed. Currently I keep all sort of note digitally since it's easier and faster for me to find and access what I need. Currently testing joplin and obsidian!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The act of taking down notes helps me remember things (even if I never look at the actual notes, which I rarely do!)

Handwriting has this effect moreso than typing, but typing still helps. I think having to embody the notes in some form forces me to pay attention at all, and having to keep up means I need to summarize or pick the most salient points, which means I must engage with the material further.

I tend to use pen & paper or a tablet PC. If whatever I'm taking notes for is more of a liberal-arts-lecture feel, I'll type (more words needed!), but if there are diagrams or equations involved (STEM time!), I'll handwrite.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have to take notes on paper, or it's completely out of my head. Phone, computer, etc is so ingrained in my day-to-day it becomes lost in an afterthought, so physically jotting stuff down engages my brain in a different (arguably better, for me) way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

For work, it's really about capturing what my customer(s) are talking about in case I have follow ups myself and some basic CYA in case someone wants to come back and complain.

For my personal life, it's filing some stuff away for future use, sometimes it's databases/inventories of my hobbies (like Transformers collecting) or random scratch comparisons when we were looking at daycares for the little one.

I used to have a big Excel spreadsheet with a list of tables but I've moved both my work and personal note taking over to notion.so. I've got a solid workflow that lets me track to-dos, manage my team, and organize my notes where possible and I've come to really like it. At work, we're also looking into Microsoft Loop for something already built into our Office subscription but it's still in preview and not as fleshed out like Notion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My reasons for taking notes is basically "yes" to everything you mentioned.

Recently, my notes came in handy when I finally submitted my project as a final project for an online course I was taking. It spanned about 4 months of start and stop progress so a lot of my initial thoughts would have been lost if I hadn't journalled about what I did on days I worked on the project.

In my last job, I would take notes of what I'm doing by hand. Or sketch out plans of what I want to do with the internal tools I made just so I'm not wasting time or falling into the trap of feature creep.

I also do it to practice writing.

I've done most of my note taking in Obsidian.md (and I sync them with git), but sometimes I leave notes in a private Discord server if it's something I want instant access to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I got note taking pounded into my head in middle and high school (though I don't use their required method to do so anymore), so studies and learning are pretty much the same for me. After that, I find that taking notes engages me with the material more, and it's more likely to stick. If I'm reading dead trees and it's my copy, I take notes in the margins and annotate the text. If not, I have a personal wiki that I store all of my notes in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Even if I just write it down then toss it 2 minutes later, the act of writing something down or typing it up helps me remember better, than just looking/reading something.

If I do keep the note around then I use it as a reference. My handwritten notes generally are formatted in fancy but messy bulleted lists to help me disseminate information quickly and easily, and I'll add quick diagrams with arrows if needed.

Typed I just write it all out, only adding bullets, tabs or other formatting if I have time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Helps me to remember! When I was in school, even if I didn’t look back at my notes in great detail, something about the act of taking notes while listening to a lecture made the knowledge stick a bit better.

In school I would alternate between typing and writing notes in a notebook. These days I prefer writing them down in a journal or planner, though the notes app on my phone also comes in handy a lot!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Help me remember, help me with to-dos, and grocery lists. I have interviews I need to keep track of, possible moving plans if I get an on-site or hybrid role, comparisons of tablets, etc. etc.

I currently use Google Keep since I am all Google'd at home, but for quick notes etc. I just use pen and paper. Anything important will go into the Google Keep. However for the move planning (which is more of a contingency plan) I'm using a Google docs template that is like a report. This way it's a little more organized.

I'm thinking to move to Apple ecosystem, so I may end up using their app - but for now, Google Keep works well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I started taking notes on a app called Craft. It kind of takes a page from notion, but it is not nearly as bloated. I use it for everything, notes on books, journaling, keep tabs on my exercises and so on.