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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's really sad and I see why people blame the police for arresting these folks who are already struggling. But, to be fair, the police aren't acting independently; they are told exactly what to do and who to arrest by people much higher up.

I've seen it here with out Trax train system, homeless people getting harassed by the patrolmen who come along to see if you really bought a ticket or not. And it really is heartbreaking, I just want to say "let me pay for them" but it isn't allowed.

Obviously when this kind of thing is out of control, there's a system problem not just a people problem. I don't know why we can't make mass transit easier for people who are already having difficulties most of us can't even comprehend.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The fact it isn't allowed for you as a free person with resources to help somebody else without resources is morally abhorrent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I agree totally. It's morally repugnant to me and yet it's the reality where I live. Here in Utah, they are constantly harassing homeless people, but it isn't because police (some of who I know) are wanting to do it - the governor here has made it clear that homeless people are to be treated like garbage, and when it comes to transit fare, they must be arrested if they ride without a ticket (although I'd be happy to buy them a ticket anytime, but that isn't legal to buy them a fare here in Utah).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (8 children)

but that isn’t legal to buy them a fare here in Utah

As a foreigner with no clue of US law, I cannot believe this would hold up in court. Who’s to prevent you from giving a gift to a person of your choice? If corporations can donate unlimited money to election campaigns and call it an expression of their fReEdOM Of SpEeCh, how is it not freedom of speech to buy someone a ticket?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

There's some confusion of order going on. In no state would it be illegal to buy someone else a ticket. However, if someone is being fined/arrested for riding without a fare, the crime(whether it should be considered that or not), has already been committed. Even if they could afford to buy a ticket themselves, making that purchase after the fact won't prevent the fine/arrest. So someone stepping in and offering to purchase a ticket doesn't change the outcome either.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

The cruelty is the point.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

My issue is with incompetent government misusing tax income, demonstrating they don't deserve to collect it in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What does your caption mean, OP?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's a reference to the British Conservative party's plan to send immigrants seeking asylum who come to the UK to Rwanda. It's hopefully not going to pass through parliament because it's a horrible idea.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

My interpretation was that OP was trying to come up with an even bigger way of wasting money the cops could use to "fix" the problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

uk government: this feels like a personal attack

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