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I mean like why? Just open and update when I'm done that's what every other browser does. Stop making me wait to use the Internet firefox!

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Would you prefer:

“Firefox Updater

This app is preventing shutdown”

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Yeah, no reason not to. Takes only a couple of seconds to boot, and everything is reset to a clean state.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got a X570 board with the really loud fan.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Instead of sleep mode, I think they meant.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

My laptop won't charge from USB-C if the battery fully dies, so I shut it down to prevent that.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The better approach would be to prepare the update in the background and swap out the version on the next start

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Isn't that what it does? That's how it works on macOS, and I get prompted to restart on Linux when I install updates in the background.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm on Windows and I don't recall the last time I was inconvenienced by a Firefox update. Like... I can't even remember what it actually does. OP must be running it on a potato or something.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah and it only takes seconds on a decent PC.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go to options. Scroll halfway down the page. Firefox gives you the choice to change updates from automatic to whenever you want.

https://i.imgur.com/NxpbIH4.png

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I prefer automatic updates.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I don't like when it chooses to auto update. Its a very minor but annoying annoyance

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

I disagree. Software not terminating immediately is grounds for uninstallation. It should update silently while it runs.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Ubuntu has an even better approach. It updates silently while you are using it. Then your tab crashes. And when you retry it tells you to restart firefox. Truly genius *cheffs kiss

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

As an Arch user. I wanted to use Arch at work too. Well, they want me to use Kubuntu (or any other prefered Ubuntu, but I like KDE so I do what every other dev uses)... except for Home Office ofc. Arch.

Still. I hate this stupid update thing. Suddenly I get 20 notifications of KDE system wanting a reboot because of updates and Firefox doing exactly this.

The worst. When I open a new tab by middleclicking a link, the tab crashes. I restart Firefox and the new Tab is gone forever. Sometimes its easy to get what I saw but not always.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

How else would you know it was doing anything?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You guys close your browser? Weird

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Well yeah, about every 4 weeks when Firefox gets updated.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not really hankering for that 4 seconds it takes to restart.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Takes longer on older hardware

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It matters more when you clear history and cookies automatically at close. You lose your entire session.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Then... don't do that? You can clear history and cookies manually really easily, so if you restart your browser less often than Firefox releases updates (every 4 weeks), you're just opening yourself up to hacks by running an insecure browser.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I don't think I've ever noticed Firefox updating. The only sign I get that it updates is that when it does a special tab opens telling me about the new features.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is what I hate on school computers, and it drives people away from Firefox.
You don't have admin privilege, you can't update, so don't even try.
I always disable auto-updates on those.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Just use a a package manager

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Applications updating themselves... must be a Windows thing. Didn't they want to copy package management from Linux? Maybe AI can help.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Went not just disable automatic updates? Update when you have time for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My issue with FF's auto update is that the behavior is how painfully the auto-update works with multiple profiles.

I'll have one window (well three) open for some (measurable in days) time.

  1. FF updates silently, I haven't restarted my browser so I haven't noticed.
  2. I go to open a session in the second (or third profiles)
  3. FF decides now is a great time to apply the update, after all it just opened right?
  4. All the existing open browsing sessions in the other profiles get bricked. The tabs just stop responding, no browsing works, just dead in the water.

I have to shut it (all?) down to get it working again.

I don't know how Chrome handles this so I cannot compare. TBH still worth using FF over that adware!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I see it like thank you that i don't have to go to Mozilla website and download the installer. So much time saved, and it only takes like 5 second without manually doing anything. On Linux i saw please restart Firefox tab and clicked it. No problem. I got the update fast.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I imagine for security best practices, software prefers update on open (if not update on checking a central update server regularly like yum -whatever update), but for user convenience this would be better for so many things.

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