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I'm voting PSL in a swing state. I have a bunch of friends in safe dem states and when they get mad at me for this I ask them why they're voting for the dems there if it doesn't even matter, are they just in it for the love of the game (genocide)?
A bunch of them have offered to do the vote swap thing with me but I'm thinking not. To the extent electoral politics matters and voting is a feedback loop on politicians (very limited), biden won't be rewarded with my vote.
Do the vote swap, then vote third party anyway
They were never going to follow through with it anyway. "vote swappers" never do.
lol im picturing dem party operatives arranging vote swaps w multiple third party supporters, trading their one vote for thousands, and then still voting dem
i was googling vote swapping and apparently the hillary ppl kind of did that
The message is simple: “Friends don’t let friends protest-vote in swing states.”
as always the only acceptable protests are the ones without any possible effect
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lmao wtf? did the Seattle times just copy & paste a press release straight from the company?
the term "protest vote" makes me want to punch someone. Fuck you. This candidate represents my interests and yours doesn't. I vote for the candidate that advances my agenda. This is how liberal democracy is "supposed" to work. Run a better platform or eat shit. I owe you nothing
I remember a Redditor getting really upset with me for not voting for Biden last cycle despite not being in a swing state, because Trump might rig the elections and it would be harder to do that somehow if people voted.
Im writing in Hillary. It's still her turn.
Put the name on the ballot and drop it into the box slowly and nobody gets yaaas kweened
I'm writing in Bernie because it will make everyone left right and center of me mad.
Voted PSL in 2020. Will probably do so again, but might consider someone like Dr. Cornel West if they have significant momentum and aren't cringeposting the whole election. Downballot it's all write-ins for dead revolutionaries. I sure as hell am not casting a vote for Gottheimer.
Beyond shit like keeping Moms for Liberty out of the school board, this shit is pointless. Pretty much all I'm doing is punching one in for the ghost of Ho Chi Mihn out of spite.
I vote third party because it best represents my beliefs. Usually Green or whatever crank leftist party makes it on the ballot. Being in a closed primary state takes most of the fun out of election season anyway
PSL 
i've given up on elecotralism
i hope they both die (of old age, calm down 
)
or refuse to vote at all
if you're in this camp there might be a city council or school board election you should actually vote in.
People talk about local elections a lot but 99% of the time it's like a race populated with five different real estate professionals
i'll take the one who isn't a creationist over the ones who are for the school board. that's a case where flavors of liberal actually do matter.
99% sounds like a wild overstatement too. around here more often it's some unopposed county position.
Voting for my dog. If he wins, he won't commit genocide because he's a dog. That's the best option.
If only the presidential election were on the ballot I would care a lot less. But my state and local elections are actually pretty important to me.
In 2020 I voted for La Riva (PSL) for president.
I'm voting for both candidates 
. I even have my fake ID ready. My commitment to voting is stronger than any liberal could dream.
i've been voting third party in the general presidential slot since obozo's 2nd term run. it's hilarious. i mean, i'm already there making selections for school board seats, city council peeps, family court judges and heads of various state agencies-type shit anyway so the marginal cost of my time and effort of participation in the general prez b.s. is negligible. looking into the other races and their candidates is a far bigger hassle, even with the relatively efficient process i've cobbled together over the years.
what i like to imagine is the blue maga crowd looking at the PSL+green numbers on the day of tabulation and being incensed at all us cranks and assholes for going through all the hullabaloo and pageantry only to spike the ball and rip a wet fart on their latest disappointing savior. the humor only increases when the red vs blue horse race is tight. the nerve of wasting a vote on somebody under 100 that isn't a genocidal sex predator! and if some bozo tries to say shit about it IRL, i just shrug and tell them i'll vote for a dem presidential candidate as soon as they stop nominating the biggest horses ass in the stable. it's a low bar, but if they don't clear it they aren't trying.
I'm voting for the
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I should do a mail in ballot with PSL and the local elections that matter but I won't.
Kinda wish the PSL put in more time and effort in local level election organizing than promoting their presidential ticket.
yeah go get some of those unopposed county positions and shit so people are used to seeing your party on the ballot and then eat the democrats' lunch in the state elections they pay no attention to and all but gave up against republicans for 50 years.
i think the claim that voting "legitimizes" the system on a wider level is probably wrong. like, maybe when revolution was a live option, when there were insane people burning down army recruiter offices and sending bombs in the mail but now in the long dark winter of the class war, the system does not need our legitimacy. the popular mandate is not taken seriously. people at all levels engage with the political process as pure spectacle, no one believes they have real agency no matter the options they're given.
the real strength of not voting is preserving your own spirit and awareness that we can still smash the shell of the egg and be born. It's refusing to accept into yourself the poison that is faith in a god that hates you.
I will vote PSL in my swing state or not at all.
2020 I voted for EATASS42069 so maybe they get my vote again as I still enjoy eating ass while smoking weed
Either West or the PSL candidate depending on who’s on the ballot. I never thought the “voting at all only legitimizes the system” argument was valid because it makes the false assumption that TPTB are dependent on voter turnout to legitimize the system. The turnout could be twenty percent, they’d still push a “shining beacon of democracy” message and the consent will be manufactured.
Now I know there’s zero chance a third party candidate will win, but I’ve noticed that non-voters don’t even get discussed in the narrative. They may demonize third party voters, but at least they talk about them.
Lol Trump is going to win my state by like 50 points, I can vote for whatever third party I want.
My vote is purely symbolic in a solid blue state so I'm just going to vote PSL. If the only thing I'm changing is the vibes then I might as well have them be socialist ones 
I'm voting for PSL's Claudia & Karina. I actually talked about it with someone today and they said my vote was useless. At least it's not a thank you note to Biden for the proxy war in Ukraine, bombing the Nord Stream pipeline then lying about it, the genocide in Palestine and Yemen, the continued U.S. sanctions regime, imperialism in Central & South America, and migrant concentration camps (so useful and pragmatic!).
Im not.
I'm in the PSL and plan on voting Claudia and Karina. I've yet to hear any criticism of them or their party that isn't the nitpickiest bullshit I've ever heard.
I will vote 3rd party, probably for the if they're on the ballot again in my state. Doesn't do much except as a weak act of protest. The Democrats can't guilt me into voting for Biden, considering that their neglect of the state party turned my swing state of Florida into a solid red one. That and all the chuds moving here from rural New York. If you're in a similar situation in the presidential race, vote for the person you feel best aligns with your values, knowing that it is a minor act of protest that has no real bearing on anything.
Congressional and state elections go nowhere in Florida, especially where I am. The ballot initiatives are the only important thing that voting might change. Abortion should be on it this year and I hope they can expand reproductive rights in my state.