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If Microsoft wants more RAM just to do AI shit on my computer, I'd rather have even less just to make sure they cant.
My next OS will be some kind of Linux. I just had to reinstall Windows 11 because it corrupted it's install after some time. I had to uninstall so much crap and regedit so many thinks just to get it back to where I was before. I don't want Bing search in my windows search results. I don't want your stupid widgets and I don't want your browser or 90% of your default apps. And no I don't want office 360 or onedrive. So stop forcing it into my face. When Linux gets Plasma 6 and HDR support there is only holding me back my Nvidia GPUs Linux compatibility. While I hah to install windows 11 again I played a lot of games on my Steam Deck! It's is awesome and only some games with obscure anti cheat don't run. (well some times they don't run on windows too)
I love to bash MS, but this feels like an industry-wide trend to /never/ care about optimizing beyond the bar of "typical specs of new devices in rich countries". I'm guessing it's just to limit labor costs, and computers are less-rapidly-improving than the 90s/00s?
It already should have that. 8 GB is the absolute bare fucking minimum for most computers these days, but unless you have 16, it's a generally unpleasant experience.
I do have 16GB RAM, but that's not because I wanted to run just the OS and without a game.
linux needs like 1gb of ram and some distros even less
My new PC has 64g ram. But I'm also not using or plan to use windows. Checkmate M$!
But in all seriousness, 8g is like, the foundational minimum these days. Sad tbh. Browsers are so bloated these days. I'm surprised that browsers haven't become their own OS yet. It kinda feels that way in some environments.
Microsoft are such weirdos. It's like they're trying to empower Google, who will lap up all of the users they abandon as they install Chrome OS, because let's be honest, the average Jo seldom just installs Linux, so they'll say, "oh I've heard of Chrome, let me try that"
Already switched to linux
I may have 128Gb in my current rig (Dell Precision T7610), but if this is the way you’re gonna be bloating Windows 12, imma gonna be running to OpenSUSE or some BSD.
Yes, I use Win10Privacy to lobotomize all of the spyware and cruftware that comes with Windows. But it’s gotta be re-run after every significant Windows update.
My next Windows PC doesn't need any RAM, because I'm not going to need one.
Oh no! I won't be able to run Windows on my new MacBook Pro!
Another reason to move to Linux ;P
Jesus Christ, what are they doing? Emulating the OS in fucking Minecraft!?
Don't worry! Eventually, they will find a "cure," such as Windows moving to a cloud-only model where your PC becomes a glorified dumb terminal!
So like Windows 365, but for consumers.
Meanwhile, chrome and desktop apps (Electron-based) like Slack, note apps, etc, takes 1GB just to open... Well, tbh I don't know if they really use physical RAM space, but anyway.
I will have no next windows PC anyways. I'll go out of my way to get one without a windows license, to put linux onto it :)
Going to need 32 GB of RAM or more plus a GPU with 48 GB of VRAM just to run Win12 w/ AI subsystem so you have enough headroom to run a program or two
my first computer was a tandy sensation which has 4mb of ram and a 100mb hard drive
RAM is cheap, and even if you're just doing absolute basic shit your current PC will work better with 16GB of RAM (also looking at you here, Apple). If it's not a phone you're buying don't get anything with less than 16GB.
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