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Would you use teleporter technology if it existed? Why or Why not? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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You know those sci-fi teleporters like in Star Trek where you disappear from one location then instantaneously reappear in another location? Do you trust that they are safe to use?

To fully understand my question, you need to understand the safety concerns regarding teleporters as explained in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQHBAdShgYI

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I wouldn't, because the person that reappears aint me, its a fucking clone. Teleporters are murder machines. Star Trek is a silent massacre!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Doesn't Star Trek's transporter solution involve converting your atomic structure to Energy, beaming that energy to another place, and reconstitution your body using the same atoms? If so, that's not really dying anymore. Just re-arranging your original atoms.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Isn't it still kind of the same thing though?

Star Trek calls that "matter stream" energy your "pattern". Pattern sounds a lot like Information. Data. Which is very easy to transmit and duplicate. Data can also be lost or corrupted.

So it's as if they convert all your atoms to a file, then FTP your file to somewhere else where the technology turns your pattern back into matter.

"You" can't exist as just data, so at that point you're already dead. I think...

There are episodes where your pattern is stuck in the pattern buffer. You're only information being stored at that point.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Just because they can un-burn you at the end doesn't mean your body isn't destroyed when you leave. Even if the atoms were just re-arranged and not converted to energy, you're still getting pureed and then reconstituted. Hard to argue you're not dead when your brain has been completely disassembled.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we're talking exactly like star trek I'm 90% on board with it. Yeah, yeah, so I'm a clone now, big whoop.

You wanna know the 10% that really fucking haunt me?! Mother fucking Tuvix. Everyone you know can turn into a Tuvix situation real fast, that's the real nightmare.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Hell yes. Yes please. Please.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

We've seen someone's POV going through a transporter. From your own perspective you would just see some glowy shit and appear at your destination. Of course, I would make an army of myself with another me in the transport buffer tweaked to retain the pattern for a long time. But instant transportation is invaluable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here's another great video on the transporter problem!

To be

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

If I were afraid to use the teleporter I’d be afraid to go to sleep. And I ain’t going there, so yes I would use the teleporter.

Also PSA for anyone using an iphone: it’s unaware of the word “teleporter” and will autocorrect it to teleported.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (34 children)

Well, if the technology actually existed, it would solve that whole "soul" question.

We would know pretty quickly if we transported humans and they came out the other side as soulless aberrations because their original just got killed.

So yeah, I would 100% use it after it first proved once and for all that the sum of our consciousness really is all the synapses and signals and grey matter in our heads. Because if so then what does it matter if your original matter has been erased and then recreated. Your clone is just as much you as you are you at that point.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (9 children)

We would know pretty quickly if we transported humans and they came out the other side as soulless aberrations because their original just got killed.