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I posted this question because I once saw a tweet that said something like:

"If you use adblock, you don't care about creator's point blank"

What is your opinion on this? Do you agree with them?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I use Pi-hole, which is great since it is network wide. Doesn't do much for youtube, so for that I just download videos using yt-dlp. Downloading the video has the added bonus that you get the highest video quality for 100% of the video.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've used it for the past decade. Literally the only time I see ads is when I look at other people's devices and wonder how TF they use them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If a creator is really useful, I support them directly through donations or paid subscriptions. Other than that, I can't stand ads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I block all ads, I rather tips some moneroj or sats to creators, buy some merch, etc. From my point of view giving 5$ to a creator will be more profitable for him/her than watching a hell lot of ads

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The argument to turn off your adblocker is like a circus ringleader demanding the audience’s money for the sake of the lion, even while he beats the lion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yes of course i use adblock it is like the condom of internet at this point.

the money that the creators earn from ads per user is such a low amount that my time and attention are not worth it, like for youtube we are talking $0.001-0.002 per video view for an average creator. it is beneficial for both parties if you simply donate and use adblock.

i also find the data hoarding personalised ad model predatory and privacy invasive

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, uBlock Origin on Firefox and AdGuard on mobile devices. Can't live without adblock these days, especially for watching YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same here, uBlock on Firefox with my desktop. On mobile you should try youtube ReVanced.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How's revanced compare to Newpipe?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Newpipe has different user interface. Revanced is exactly youtube with just modification to remove ads and add more function like sponsorblock

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I use adblockers wherever possible. For instance, Iceraven with Ublock Origins in my phone, Firefox with Ublock Origins in PC, Infinity for Reddit (will stop using on 30th June), XManager for Spotify and Revanced Extended for YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Spotify? I suppose you don't have a paid subscription, which is why you use i Xmanager?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ever since my Unifi Dream Machine Pro router was updated with VPN and pihole functionality, I haven't needed to use any adblocking. I can route all my traffic through my home network and it blocks ads in every context, including in apps.

As might be obvious, I completely disagree with the tweet. I hate ads. They're predatory and abusive and they ruin the internet. Anybody who is willing to be responsible with ads has a donate/subscribe option anyway. The auto play video people with dark patterns etc. need to be obliterated. But I probably hate them even less than I hate sites like the New York Times, which charge a subscription fee and then fill their site and apps with ads anyway. Fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I have been using adblockers for more than 20 years, probably read a post about it on Slashdot and I think userfriendly.org could have mentioned it.

A site added big blinking ads left, right and top and that pissed me off, I installed AdBlocker on FF and never looked back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Wanna know why I use ublock origin eveywhere? If you're brave (and dumb) go to wordhippo.com with a "naked" browser (no adblock and default privacy settings). Then come back and talk to me when you've removed all the malware from your system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you use adblock, you don't care about creator's point blank

This sounds a lot like not tipping being a bad thing.

Ads and tipping denigrate my daily experience. So I'm not going to suffer either.

Blocking ads is also just more secure as it's a vector for so many exploits.

In conclusion, I don't agree with them at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ads can deliver viruses, many ads are animated or have sound, or both. If every ad were static and safe, I wouldn't mind so much... but alas, that's not a thing. So AdBlock it is!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I turn it off on YouTube after I saw they rolled out the content blocking expedient for ad block users. But for everything else I leave it on, except twitch because the twitch community already get shafted by the 50/50 split.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

yes :) if i like something, i will pay for it. as opposed to giving google 97% of the creator’s ad revenue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For the longest time I use:

  • for blocking ads: uBlock Origin, Disconnect, Privacy Badger, Ghostery
  • for search: DuckDuckGo
  • mobile ads blocking: AdGuard

I donate or buy merch from creators directly. Many of them voiced that majority of the revenue doesn't come from ads, but from sponsorships and direct donations/purchases.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I use adblock almost everywhere, except for a few sites with decent ads and creators I support.

Apart from that, I try to support the few creators I appreciate the most in other ways.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@tsukii I don't, because TROMJARO do everything fir me.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, because most sites are completely unreadable without it. I also don't want to be loading megabytes of garbage with all the ads, trackers, and whatever other shit people stick on commercial websites nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I don't, because I know that ads are part of free content "agreement"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

i do not use adblock on content creation sites like youtube

its a small effort for what i assume is a small bit of support for the content im watching

i just never had an issue with ads, theyre unobtrusive and i can just do something else while theyre playing

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I do everything under the sun pretty much. Ublock origin, NoScript, chameleon extensions on Librewolf (and others). I “subscribe” to YouTube channels via rss feeds. Open up the newsboat feed reader from my terminal and an extension called “Alter” redirects me to an invidious instance. NoScript blocks everything pretty much as I just need the url. Then I use yt-dlp with the sponsorblock flag.

I only visit YouTube when I have a bunch of new “subs” that I found through word of mouth (reading blogs, HN, Mastodon, Lemmy, etc). I could just use invidious rss feeds, but if the instance goes down I would have to start all over again. There are other ways of achieving this same effect, but this is how I choose to consume yt now.

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