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I've been using Linux Mint since forever. I've never felt a reason to change. But I'm interested in what persuaded others to move.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Linux Mint. There was just too much crap on the desktop

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Debian, don't like apt.
Arch, breaks too much.
NixOs, just don't need the tools it provides.
Any fork of a mainline distro because it's never as good as the root.

I used arch for a while, but got sick of running repairs every few weeks. I use Gentoo now, it's stable and good. I have a fuck ton of ram and a good cpu, I also take advantage of binary packages from time to time. I don't really need to install new things that much after having done the initial install.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

NixOS.

Cool package manager but constantly breaking compatibility with none nix package managers really annoyed me. (Ghcup, mason, etc...)

Also how difficult they made compiling software from source. I could live with nix packages if I could also compile the programs I need from source.

Great server os. I don't understand how people use it as a daily driver

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I honestly don't understand why recent Ubuntu releases are popular. However, I enjoyed it in the early 2000s. There was another popular release a few years ago that had zero hotkeys enabled and I have never felt more disgusted by a release in my life. I can't even remember what it's called, it traumatized me hahaha.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The first time I installed Debian on my desktop I didn't do my homework properly. This was a long time ago. It didn't take long for me to realize just how out of date many packages were and that was a deal breaker. I have since used Debian successfully in different contexts, because I knew what to expect. I still wouldn't install Debian stable on my desktop because I prefer to have a more up to date environment. Might try Debian sid one of these days though. But yeah, Debian, great distro, but you need to know what you're getting in to.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Any distro that uses apt. I'm ok with Fedora and Arch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Manjaro. Probably because I tried it with GNOME which isn't for me either.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

RHEL, SELinux sucks and I hate it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I attempted to try Garuda Linux (cinnamon) on a mini PC (Ryzen 5800H based APU), but graphic artefacting was a constant issue as soon as the install started.

After several tries I had to abandon ship and wait till a new release to maybe try again, if I remember. Not exactly "Nope, this one's not for me" as I had yet to properly try it.

Otherwise, I tried Crunchbangplusplus and just gave up for being a bit too minimalist or not yet ready for prime time as I kept geting issues after issues and did not have the patience to wrangle the whole OS for everything from getting network working to audio and screen issues on my system.

Anyways, it is always fun to try new systems/apps/protocols and see where thing are headed towards.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Anything that isn't debian-like. I'm just very used to It and can't make myself learn anything else.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Anything that isn't Arch.

  • Ubuntu's package managers won't stop fighting with each other so I can't complete an upgrade easily. Also, I hate apt. Trusting prebuilt binaries from PPAs seems a little dangerous to me compared to trusting build scripts in the AUR, so I don't feel comfortable with that. I do like it otherwise, though.
  • Linux Mint is fine, I guess, but no Wayland yet and I don't like Cinnamon. Same PPA issues. Has some more outdated packages than Ubuntu.
  • openSUSE is great, but the package managers won't stop fighting with each other and it's lacking a few packages. I like the Open Build System a lot less than the AUR.
  • Fedora is fine, while missing some packages, but it broke on me after a week and I had no idea how to fix it so I stopped using it.
  • Pop_OS makes everything about GNOME worse.
  • Debian's packages are too old.
  • Manjaro is more work than Arch and the packages are out of sync with the AUR.
  • The packages I want aren't in Solus. Is this distro even still around?

And for distros I won't consider trying:

  • Gentoo is too much work.
  • Qubes is too much work and I can't play games on it.
  • I don't like any of the ZorinOS modifications and the packages are old.
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I literally liked parrotOS, but I had other priorities and abandoned it forever

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Every single one of them until I hit arch. It just seemed to click and I enjoy the rolling release.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I've tried both LMDE and Debian itself, but I think I just ended up frustrated at the age of software in the repos and how much stuff relies on Ubuntu specific stuff.

Way back in the day I was an Ubuntu user, but then everyone simultaneously decided that gnome 2 was too old and that touch interfaces were the priority. So I now use Mint and Cinnamon.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

KDE. Not a distro, but I can't get on with it. Too much screen real estate used by flashy things, and everything moves. I want instant transitions not a shwoosh. It's probably all toggleable, but I don't want to fiddle with it for every install or release.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

All but Arch. Find commands much easier to remember and me having dyslexia and ADHD my memory is shocking.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed--coming from Arch, it just felt so refined and ready to go right out of the box. Then I started installing programs and ran into dependency hell--now on EndeavourOS with the AUR which is great

Additionally, the combination of terminal + GUI to do things just felt wrong

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Manjaro. I had previously already used Antergos and Ubuntu, but after Antergos stopped I needed something like it. So I installed Manjaro in my secondary PC (with old components). I constantly got into trouble with the manual kernel version selection thingy. I was used to kernel updates being part of the normal update process, and suddenly I had to manually pick the new one. I constantly ran into incompatibility issues with older or newer kernels, vague update deadlocks where I couldn't update things because they depended in each other, and I absolutely hated having to use a separate program for updating the kernel. Now the PC runs Fedora and I'm liking that a lot more so far...

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I have liked Ubuntu based distros until they release a major update. They are aimed at beginners and they work fine for that. If you use one to the end of support, the updater will say that your software is up to date because there are no new updates.

You have to check the website to find out you've reached the end of support, and to get instructions on how to update.

That is an awful user expierence for beginnners, and a great way to have users using vulnerable software without knowing about it.

I've switched to rolling releases for this exact reason.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ubuntu. I hated not being able to customize certain things and it had some interesting bugs on my hardware. Switching to a different distro solved those issues

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Void Linux with musl. I wanted to try setting up a distro with Musl, but many things I use daily simply don't work with it, and the hassle of troubleshooting everything was a bit too much. I went back to Fedora Workstation, and I'll likely stay on it for my workstation (though I'll switch to Fedora Kinoite when Fedora 40 releases). I also use Fedora Server for my personal server, since it's very familiar to me, and there's not a huge point in switching to CentOS anymore with the recent changes, so I'll probably just stick to it.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Arch\Endeavor, I more preferred the polished experience of Fedora Silverblue and Debian\Mint.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Ubuntu. I just don't like how they do things. I cant even maintain a repo for the machines i host without putting aside multiple terabytes of space. So to me they cant even make it reasonably easy for me to help them and be self reliant on their ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

I had a huge problem with Arch because of the rolling release deal. I just can't handle the responsibility of updating packages every single day, even with automation.

When I install an operating system, I want it to just work, and I want their repositories to have lots and lots of software. Most distros do this, but none do it as well as one of the major Debian-family distros like Ubuntu or Mint. Fedora is quite nice as well, and I could probably daily drive it without issue, I just see no reason to change over to it since Ubuntu has me totally covered. And it is basically like this for me with every other distro: I have to think, "why would I switch? What benefit would it provide me over what I have right now." The answer is always "nothing important," so I stick with Ubuntu.

I considered using Guix because its package manager is truly a revolutionary new technology. But using it as a package manager, I can see a lot of the packages and default configurations just aren't quite to the point of "just works" yet. Still, I hope someday to switch to Guix as my daily driver.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

PopOS and Manjaro are two I never liked.

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