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[-] [email protected] 145 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That would be great if we weren't past the point of phones having unremovable batteries... Too little too fucking late as always, Google.

[-] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago

The EU would like to have a talk with manufacturers about this... Much like USB C for iPhones, removable batteries are in the works again thanks to the EU.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I hope these changes affect the global supply chain, but I'm very skeptical that it's going to have any repercussions outside of the EU.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

These changes tend to be global because it's cheaper to make the change for everyone than have two different designs and manufacturing (one for EU and other for the rest of the world). And more often than not EU is too big of a market to ignore.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Maintaining multiple SKUs with major differences is quite expensive and time consuming, plus confusing for the customer on a global Internet trying to look things up. I expect that this would make at least some manufacturers ship these to other countries, so we would have some options.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

These changes tend to be global because it's cheaper to make the change for everyone than have two different designs and manufacturing (one for EU and other for the rest of the world). And more often than not EU is too big of a market to ignore.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Well, Samsung is selling phones with shit CPUs to Europe and good ones to USA.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh? Got a source on this?
Its the first time im hearing about this.

Edit : did some digging and ye, most of the world doesnt get the snapdragons. From what i read the performance, battery life etc are all over the place compared to the same phones with snapdragons. Also, samsung is not allowed to sell their own socs in places where they sell the snapdragon versions?
This is some weird ass shit and i assume it has to do with profit or something.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I will import EU phones if it doesn't.

Obviously a global change would be better, and hopefully that's what happens but at the very least those of us that live in places with worse consumer protection have that opinion.

Edit: In thinking a minute about it, I'm thinking that this probably won't be necessary. I haven't looked but I imagine there are still androids with removable batteries on offer, and it's safe to assume there will be more after this, even if it's not all. Though I guess if you want a very specific phone with a removable battery, that's an option.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Bear in mind the law isn't for replaceable batteries in the way you describe, it just has to be easy enough for a person or a repair shop to do without too much risk of damage.

It's unlikely we'll see every phone having a back we can just pop off and pull the battery out.

Even then, there are exceptions. If the phone still retains 84% of battery capacity by year 3, and I think 80% by year 4, it doesn't have to be user-servicable.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

All battery's can be removed if you try hard enough

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Last time I tried to remove one it caught fire. So much glue..

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Did you try removing it by stabbing it?

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Knife goes in, battery comes out

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Nah tried to pry it upwards on one side.

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

looks at fairphone
shrugs :p

Jokes aside, this is indeed a huge problem and do hope that eu law gets passed. Its perfectly possible to have a replacable battery and keep a good ip rating...

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Other countries will follow EU's example. OEMs will not have non-removable batteries anymore. Apple should immediately comply. Fairphone is indeed an example of sustainability.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

All batteries are replaceable. Some take a bit more effort and some specialized equipment, though.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah but that seems like a pain, of course I had a cell back to analog days and am probably is. Used to sell so many batteries for cells in my Radio Shack days, and many were people wanting a second one for a backup when they were in the bush. Even remember $80 for a lithium startac battery heh, like 20ish years ago.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

A lot of "replaceable" things are still considered so even if you can't just pop it out and stick a new one in yourself with zero effort.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

True, they should have better campaigns to showcase those repairs, also manufacture support for it. Unless they do and I missed it, which is very possible. Just seems they don't want you to change batteries since they make it a hassle.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Some phones, like mine, do have removable batteries. The point of Android is that devices should be varied in design and features rather than interchangeable black mirrors and I think it's good that Android is still adding features that help facilitate that.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

33% less words to print, more efficient.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Just "evil", 66% less worss

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[-] [email protected] 101 points 1 year ago

They mean the ones that are glued in, inside of casings that are glued in? Gee, how nice.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

How can we make this worse? Hey let's glue the battery to the digitizer!

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

They should make the batteries explode when the device is opened that way the user gets third degree burns

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's for their own safety.

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[-] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Looks at non removable battery... Oh.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They said you should, not that you could, the iOS way indeed.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Also, why can't we finally get usful battery stats on which app or function sucking up how much.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That's been available for ages.

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