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For real... like Mr. Putin sir, we don't want Russia. In fact, I must insist that you keep it

I've heard arguments from sarcasmitron on YouTube that Putin actually believes his own lies. Putin is terrified that the CIA actually caused color revolutions in the 2000's and 2010's, and after the pro-constitution/anti-election-fraud protests in Russia in 2011, he's been fighting against "the shadowy hand of the gay nazi west" ever since.

You have to be worth something to be invaded.

Is Putin really that weak domestically to care about elections?

I don't think they even bother with elections. Russia is dictatorship not a democracy

I feel like he's doing this just to threaten the troops on the front line with somewhere colder

I've wanted to fight Russia since they annexed Crimea. I knew it wouldn't end there, and I was proven right. If they manage to obtain the natural resources of Ukraine then it will just keep escalating. The thing is, though, Russia has lost so many troops that they could easily be swept, right now. Now has never been a better time for either the EU or NATO to force Russia into demilitarization and reparations, as well as putting more economic pressure on the Chinese Dictatorship.

One thing I don't want, though, is a direct conflict with China. Those fuckers need to try fixing their own shit, first. Idk if that makes me strong against the weak and weak against the strong, but there is simply too much to lose for all sides in that sort of conflict, unlike the very weakened and destabilized Russia.

It's really disappointing, isn't it? Putin has been given every opportunity to stop the invasion or not even start it in the first place, and in ways that would help him save face. He's rejected all of that and insists on only violence. The only response to that is returning the violence. Defending Ukraine is the most unquestionably morally correct military action I've seen in my life.

It also brings up an interesting observation -- to have a peaceful society, you have to be willing to violently defend it. If another party insists you give into their demands or they'll get violent, you have to eventually oppose them. Otherwise, if you constantly submit to them in the name of peace, they'll eventually take away your peace. Just like a tolerant society must reject intolerant views, a peaceful society must be willing to defend themselves in war.

If it weren't for the existence of Russia's massive fleet of nuclear weapons (which probably don't actually work but it's a hell of a risk) i'm sure NATO would have already got involved.

The only reasonable way I can see this war ending is if the internal politics of Russia decide Putin is now too much of a problem and deal with him themselves. Then whoever takes charge backs out of Ukraine because it's not a winnable conflict.

I can't see how anyone external can bring about an end to the conflict without risking massive escalation.

Exactly. Most didn't want to join before Putin decided to invade Ukraine.

Putin managed to do what decades and decades of pro-NATO propaganda couldn't. It's almost impressive.

They can make a big show of parking the T14s and Su-57s there knowing they won't have to be put to use and no one will find out how shit they are.

Russia will absolutely not invade Finland, even if it weren't part of NATO and the EU.

Wake up, Simo Hayha. Finland needs its protector once more.

I highly doubt those troops are for invading Finland. If there's any NATO country that should be worried it's probably Estonia. Especially if/when Trump gets elected president again.