Elon Musk’s EV company is running a social-media campaign blaming European traffic deaths on red tape. Its safety claims don’t hold up, experts say, but regulators are starting to buckle.

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[–] 34 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

Why are people still buying those Nazi-mobiles??

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago

    I drive one. It's a slightly older model, generation 3 hardware, back from the days when everybody loved Elon (before he threw in with the GOP).

    The car is fantastic. FSD is fantastic. Love the guy or hate him, it's the best car I've ever owned by a significant margin.

    As someone who actually drives FSD, and the older version of it too, it is very good. On the highway it drives better than I do. At least once it has saved me from what otherwise would have been a serious collision- I was in the middle lane minding my own business, suddenly the car slams on the brakes and swerves into the left lane. I'm thinking it's lost its mind, when a pickup truck comes barreling straight from an on-ramp into the left lane. Had the car not reacted it's entirely likely they would have crashed into me.

    I don't excuse Elon's politics. I think he has done a lot of good for our civilization with SpaceX and Tesla and bringing about the era of actual electric cars (which previously were perpetually always 10 years away). At the same time, I think his efforts to get Trump reelected have been extremely harmful. He does not tolerate incompetence in his companies and I don't understand why he tolerates it in his politics.

    So it's valid to argue the guy is a net negative on society, it's valid to argue he has helped benefit politicians who resemble Nazis, and it's certainly valid to criticize his 'from the heart' gesture that really did look an awful lot like a Nazi salute.

    The guy still makes an excellent car.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 day ago* (11 children)

    Try putting radar units in like every other car company uses already. Oh, but those cost money.

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  • [–] 26 points 23 hours ago* (10 children)

    It's not about money, it's because Musk thinks self driving cars should work with only vision because human drivers do so as well, and nobody was able to push back against him.

    For other great Musk driven design decisions, see the Cybertruck. And IIRC the lack of physical door handles as the frameless doors have to open the window a little first or the weather seal gets damaged.

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  • [–] 11 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

    One benefit of it getting cold in Canada now is those stupid ass trucks are getting off the streets. They absolutely cannot survive a Canadian winter.

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  • [–] 5 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

    What do you mean a bare metal shelled vehicle can't withstand the ice melt chemicals used in a country/region with actual seasons?

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  • [–] 5 points 23 hours ago

    It's wild to me that so many people thought (and still think) that he's a genius.

    At best he started on third and caught a lucky break and stole home. I saw through him when he first became a big public figure like 15 years ago. I don't know how so many people I know, several who I thought were smarter than me, fell for his schtick.

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  • [–] 21 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    Does FSD exist in the US? If so, show your safety records in the US.

    Oh wait.......

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  • [–] 19 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    there's no FSD because it only exists in marketing language

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Enough bribes and they’ll cave. They just need to pretend they won’t.

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  • [+] -21 points 18 hours ago* (1 child)

    Good. Tesla's FSD seems to be easily the best in the market. https://www.motortrend.com/features/tesla-fsd-driver-assistance-system-best-tech-2026

    It's good that EU is careful about this stuff, which is why the piloting is happening in a limited set of countries. But when it has been tested, why keep putting hurdles on the technology? People are literally dying in preventable human-caused car accidents every day.

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  • [–] 21 points 18 hours ago

    People are literally dying in preventable human-caused car accidents every day.

    NHTSA reports human drivers to 1.9 incidents per million miles, and self driving cars companies refuse to give the mileage data. They are forced to give incidents rate data, and we can somehow estimate their milage and then we arrive at over 12 incidents per million miles for self driving levels 3-5.

    Oh in 2025 NHTSA changed reporting requirements, to more relaxed, with less supervision and oversight, and no pushback or controls, laid off 25% of workers and changed it’s director to Morrison who was at the time Apple Self Driving Car Chief Council.

    And even now it’s almost twice the rate of human driver per million miles.

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