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Ever feel this way? (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 25 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

As an autism, I don't enjoy people letting me ramble about something. You gotta engage and ask good questions or it feels like you're just humoring me like in the meme. Then I get self conscious for expecting people to labor for my conversation 😮‍💨

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (5 children)

    We just spent six hours watching Dune Parts One and Two and I've been talking to you about what I like about it for the past thirty minutes. What do you mean you don't know the difference between the kiwsatz haderach and the shai halud ?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Well now I desperately want to hear your take on the Dune movies

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

    You shouldn't since I couldn't even get through the books.

    But I watched Part 1 last night on bluray, but Part 2 was a video file that looks just terrible, even though it was billed as 1080p, so I haven't seen that bit yet. Just got a better version (6Gs my poor data plan) and will watch Part 2 tonight.

    Tap for spoilerThings I notice, aside from the cinematography, is that it's really a nice little analogy to imperialism and resources in the middle east (obvious).

    I also appreciated how it's not afraid to be weird and foreign. Like I watch a lot of SF and, technology or politics aside, everyone is pretty relatable and "normal." Not so with Dune. The psychological requirements of existing politically are apparent, even as the humanity of the characters living it is clear. A mother may love her son, but allow the Bene Gesserit to kill him. A son may love his mother and also resent that he was created to fulfill a political purpose. A man may be a powerful warrior, but still need to life and allegiance to a fallen house.

    Sure, they make great attempts for us to relate to the characters, like when Paul complains about having to do The Voice just when he wakes up, and Papa Atreides says he will love his son no matter what, but this is standard screen writing manipulation, the equivalent of making your character pet a stray dog to make them likable from the outset.

    I also deeply appreciated that Paul hesitated to kill Jamis, and it was only when the mother pointed out that Paul hadn't even killed anyone did I remember that, "holy shit, yeah, killing someone is kind of a big deal." I'm so used to death in film being treated as a throwaway thing, it is just so grounding to see it being taking as a psychologically signifcant event.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (2 children)

    The good news is you like all the things that they kept from the books! For that last point, about death being a big deal, I agree. Most of the time it's made to be nothing, and Dune Part 2 does this, in my opinion. It goes from Paul having trouble killing someone at the end of Part 1 to Part 2 starting with a big fight scene, and dealing death is now easy. I'm not a fan of that, but they're still good movies.

    You really should give the books a good shot though. They're very good. You need to get through Children of Dune at least. I usually can't get myself to sit around and read a book, but there's great audiobooks for the Dune series. I highly recommend it. Based on your comment, you'll like them.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I tried the first book and things just kept not happening and they kept talking in that one room with the long table and the painting of the matador. I mean, it's a book, right? It costs nothing to build a new set.

    Anyway, maybe I'll consider an audio book because I do listen to things while I'm out walking and what not. Especially if it's well acted. Is their a radio drama you recommend or a particular reading?

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    • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child)

    I enjoy engaging with anyone who's passionate about something, even if I have no idea what they are talking about. I know too many people without a passion for something and I can't relate to them at all.

    To be my friend you must have a passion for something, even if it's not the same stuff I'm passionate about. I can still resonate with that energy.

    I have a friend really into crochet and that's so not my thing, but I enjoy listening to her talk about it anyway.

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    • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    I do this to others. I love passion and energy.

    I wish others would do it back. Only a handful of people in my life ever have. I can see people's eyes glaze over, it's happened so often.

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    [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    All the time. I feel like slapping my face all the time at humanity... We can't be this dumb. Some rando figures out a weakness and exploits the system until extreme poverty happens. Same for the generation of things like racism, sexism and well, autism too. We're not different. We're just wired differently so we are able to see the patterns that others can't. That's all. Different like a rose is different from a different rose.

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    [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Why do we need to talk about things we are passionate about to someone who is not interested in it? That makes no sense to me.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    I love to learn. I find that listening to someone talk about things they are passionate about nets me a huge boon of information, minutia, and observations I could have never made myself.

    Much of it I will not remember, but some of it is absolute top tier, high value knowledge that I would have never been able to distill out of whatever genre, without a similar investment as them.

    I also love to see people excited, and to get to play in that with them.

    I info dump because it is the human condition to default assume others are kind of like you. And also, I'm looking for those people. I'll pick up on your cues pretty quick if you hate it though.

    People who don't, I assume are incapable of seeing the cues, especially if they are otherwise visibility autistic.

    Neurotypicals who do this, I'm almost certain just don't care about others at all.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    it is the human condition to default assume others are kind of like you

    Is it? I generally would assume it is a higher chance they would not be interested (conditional on that person being someone I don't know).

    But in any case I think it is mostly because I can't explain complex stuff very easily to someone not acquainted with the topic so I find it useless to try. And I don't suspect I am neurodivergent, atleast largely.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I tend to think everyone is at least as smart as I am, and I get really disappointed when they are dumber cuz I'm pretty fucking dumb.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    I have come to realize people who spend time in certain topics become "smart" in them (i.e they can make connections others can't make or have dexterity of thought regarding questions, problems, ideas on that topic). In this can be pretty much limited to that topic or its immediate neighbors. So every such statement should be evaluated conditional to the topic and the person's experience with it. Of course I have met couple people in my life that could make deep comments on topics they have even met for the first time but that is a separate category of people.

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    • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    This is my girlfriend when I'm just firing off random thoughts from my day <3

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