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link to article: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/28/climate/uae-cop28-documents-al-jaber.html
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meme has two parts. upper and lower.
on upper part is a screenshot of an article's title(by new york times) that reads:

Files Suggest Climate Summit’s Leader Is Using Event to Promote Fossil Fuels
A leaked document has talking points for the president of the United Nations climate conference, who is an oil executive in the United Arab Emirates, to advance oil and gas deals.

on bottom part is Pepe the Frog^1^ inhaling from an oxygen tank labelled "copium", aka the copium meme^2^.
accompanied to pepe is the text, "it's over, Bros."
and behind pepe is faded logo of cop28 summit.

1: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pepe-the-frog
2: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/copium

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[–] [email protected] 152 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The head of the climate conference... Is the head of an oil company. Oh my gosh this is like a Ricky and Morty episode

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago

COP

In UAE

Conflict of interest for Money

It was in front of us all along

[–] [email protected] 107 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

wait, were people expecting something to come out of yet another climate conference?

repeat after me: we end capitalism, or we die.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, if we die, capitalism goes with us.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

We figured out the cheat code

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

I didn't have much hope. however, after seeing yet another record hot year, I thought maybe this time people in power would do, or at least pledge to do something.

now I've truly accepted my fate. that I, along with billion others whose role in climate change is practically zero, will bear the most(provided we live that long).

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

repeat after me: we end capitalism, or we die.

lenin-laugh

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I agree, it takes a lot of copium to believe that all of this "phasing out by 2050" shit itsnt straight pandering. Its like a smoker with lung cancer saying they'll quit in a few years. We are hopelessly addicted to our lifestyles that depend on fossil fuels. The only one thats ultimately going to shift our society is mother nature when she eradicates us through famine, extreme weather and chaos

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

i’m sure they’ll think of something new on the 28th one

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Serious question...how do we end capitalism?

Like, even a near-term steps to take would be sufficient. I'm just feeling a bit run down these days. It seems like when we, the MAJORITY PEOPLE, get a win... we're slapped in the face with ten other losses. Fascism is on the rise, inflation is insane, housing prices are insane, here in the US there is a legitimate chance Trump might win again which is extremely disheartening.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We organize. Lenin literally wrote a manual outlining the basic general steps, and those were used successfully all around the world by the working class to take over the state. It is also a great way of fighting fascism.

We organize worker unions, then start using our power of collective bargaining and strikes to force them to concede more and more. All that while building a paralel socialist party and bottom up councils to direct the decisions, this party will eventually take over the state. In an ideal world this can be done nonviolently (it did initially happen peacefully in russia) but the elites will resist so we have to be prepared and strong enough. Along the way we may need to arm ourselves, save up on food and necessities to defend against the state violence that will come. For that we need a good chunk of the population onboard but its definetly possible. About half the people in most countries are already convinced voting can only bring the lesser evil so half the battle is done for us.

This is just one way, of course there are several schools of thought on the left about how to do it. Anarchists have an interesting idea of just building the all institutions we need parallel to the state too, although their method never worked on a large countrywide scale, it works pretty well for smaller communes.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 11 months ago (11 children)

You mean the climate summit….. in fucking Dubai? Lol

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What a fucking farce. Unless the people take matters into their own hands and topple their governments, nothing will ever happen.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

seeing the incumbent party in my home country watering down environmental protection rules to benefit(and later benefit from) crony capitalist friends even as they persecute activists, I think it's over.

it's too late for class consciousness.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

We are 100% going to suffer, but I think we can still survive as a species if we act quickly.

If worst case scenario comes to fruition it would be sweet to at least not let those bastards live to 100 and die peacefully in their sleep, on their cozy air conditioned beds.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I am not generally pessimistic, but i think it's just over. We won't do shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

i think most people will wake up when hunger and extreme heat comes to knock on their door. im not sure if its gonna be too late by then.

i do see the seeds of revolution starting to germinate, that looks like it will come first.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The problem is you can’t get people to organize and work together if everyone is worried about where to get their next meal. Hell, people can barely even do that now; how much more when that time comes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

That's exactly when people come to work together. The French Revolution happened because people were starving.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is too negative. We are making some progress (mostly despite governments). Kurzgesagt has a great video on this that is both based on fact and somewhat hopeful: https://youtu.be/LxgMdjyw8uw?si=K4oUpRAHbGro18We

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago (5 children)

This is all you need to understand how little of a shit our leaders actually give about climate change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How is that any different from all the jesus freaks?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They're actually and unironically going to kill us all, aren't they?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

If it turns a profit for them, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

Just gonna leave this here https://news.sky.com/story/cop28-head-says-there-is-no-science-to-suggest-phasing-out-fossil-fuels-is-the-only-way-to-achieve-key-climate-target-13021958

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

I'm going to call it - The Oil Summit from now on.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Anything that goes against capital will be refuted in our current system

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