It’s been reported that in the German elections, a far right party has made ‘significant gains’.

In the UK (at least before the scandals) Reform UK seems to have had a significant boost and has even surpassed the right-wing Conservative Party in some polls/predictions.

Even France, one or two years ago, was threatened with a far-right government due to the French far right party gaining a lot of support.

Now I’m not political, but it feels like in the last few years, the far-right has exceeded itself and had a surge in popularity. Is this the case? And if so, wtf is fuelling it?

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[–] 14 points 31 minutes ago (4 children)

Changes in the media landscape. Up to the 1990s, mainstream media in Western democracies were dominated by intellectuals, who are typically against racism and fascism. This gradually changed as media became more commercialized and sensationalist, a change that rapidly accelerated with the advent of social media, which is completely flooded by hate speech.

Economic reasons are often proposed, but this explanation falls flat considering the lack of a significant economic downturn since the 1990s, and the fact that we have seen fascists massively gaining popularity even in societies that are among the most prosperous in human history. This is especially obvious in Germany, where in East Germany (where the fascist strongholds are) the economic situation has in fact dramatically improved since the 90s.

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  • [–] 2 points 17 minutes ago (2 children)

    Economic reasons are often proposed, but this explanation falls flat considering the lack of a significant economic downturn since the 1990s,

    wut

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  • [–] 2 points 13 minutes ago (1 child)

    I don't mean there haven't been recessions, just that on the whole the economic situation is not significantly worse (and in fact probably somewhat better) than in the 1990s.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 minutes ago

    The "on the whole" economic situation is not what you want to be looking at.

    If you look at the real wage growth compared to expenses, life has been being getting grimmer and grimmer for the vast majority of individuals since the 1970s, even if GDP continues to climb.

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  • [–] 11 points 39 minutes ago* (5 children)

    Wealth and power.

    Unscrupulous rich people benefit from the far right, so it is to their advantage to amplify it in media and technology.

    There is real and legitimate discontent and disillusionment with the political mainstream, and they're steering those people towards the far right by feeding the public lies that are plausible on the surface and provide an easy target for blame.
    They're supported by opportunic charlatans who can get rich by being the mouthpiece.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 37 minutes ago (4 children)

    Do you think that the boost has more to do with the fact that the general political mainstream is collapsing (i.e. perceived as useless) across multiple nations all at once? I mean, we’ve had wealthy businessmen pretty much all throughout history, so is this like a ‘trigger event’, so to speak?

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  • [–] 3 points 22 minutes ago

    I think the change is that today’s ultra-rich don’t act the same way the rich of the past did.

    The “robber-barons” of the early 20th century were phenomenally rich and powerful, and they built schools, libraries, parks, and other public goods with a small fraction of their wealth because they understood that they had at least some tiny obligation to give back to the society that provided the conditions under which they could get so wealthy.

    Today’s rich are actively preaching against the concept of empathy, and resisting any notion that they owe anyone anything. They are convinced that even a single dollar of their fortunes going to anything other than their own personal aggrandizement is a deeply offensive idea. And they are so willing to resist doing anything positive for the world that they spend enormous amounts of money to create propaganda networks to convince others that they don’t owe anyone a single cent of their fortunes. They buy ad campaigns to convince people that taxing them is bad, spending in some cases more money than the taxes would cost them… all because they firmly believe no one but themselves should see even the tiniest benefit from their money.

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  • [–] 2 points 24 minutes ago* (2 children)

    The legitimate reasons for discontentment have existed for a long time, but I suspect that powerful people have found a way to capitalize on it en masse. They're taking the kernel of truth (that the mainstream political options aren't being effective) and directing people to solutions that benefit themselves.
    Idk if it happening internationally is just collateral damage, if they're trying to operate internationally, or other powerful people have just learned from the previous successes.

    So no, I don't think there is a trigger event, so much as reaching a critical mass. They've come into the means of control (digital media making distribution of ideas so cheap, making manipulation of media exposure so easy), and a public who is so used to being lied to and mislead that they can't identify trustworthy sources (FUD), and they're striking while the iron is hot.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 22 minutes ago (1 child)

    Ah, I see. So it’s more like a ‘tipping point’ that’s built up over a long time?

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    Economic despair.

    We all know something is deeply wrong with the world, but it's easier to see and blame brown people than to see all the ways that we are being squeezed by the Epstein class.

    In a US context, but perhaps the dynamic is the same around the world, is that Republicans blame immigrants and the Democrats, defenders of the status quo, blame nobody.

    This is a serious electoral handicap, when your side is prevented from effective world building, when you are not allowed to identify enemies.

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  • [–] 1 point 17 minutes ago

    The dynamic is quite different around the world.

    For one, most other Western democracies have multi-party systems where the choice is not restricted to just moderate conservatives and fascists.

    Secondly, many of these democracies where the popularity of fascists has surged are doing much better than the US economically.

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  • [–] 3 points 15 minutes ago

    Billionaire money. Oligarch money.

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  • [–] 3 points 21 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago)

    It's mainly that they graduated from reactive backlashes. They are seriously organized now, and are taking advantage of the inability of incumbent parties to fix the worsening everything. The far left could be doing that too, but they're not anywhere near as organized.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 minutes ago

    Predominantly a media which is on the right, and politicians who blame migrants for everything.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 minutes ago

    Occupy Wallstreet.

    People like to joke that it did nothing, but it terrified the corporate masters of the world. They have been trying to teach us uppity poors a lesson ever since.

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  • [–] 3 points 41 minutes ago (1 child)

    Billionaires -> full control of MSM, social media, algorithms, politicians -> fueling right wing everything to increase the wealth gap / avoid taxes / avoid control by the masses

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  • [–] 1 point 11 minutes ago

    What's the old the saying? The love of money is the root of all evil. Nice people aren't billionaires nor do they want power.

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  • [–] 1 point 16 minutes ago (2 children)

    There was an Australian man on ITV or BBC's morning show about a year or so ago. He was a very good speaker, but I've no idea who he was. He reckoned (I'm going by memory) it started when the left pushed for more left leaning politics - beginning after the US started a domino effect in the middle East, and caused a surge of immigration.

    That coupled with people having their own platforms with the likes of facebook, instagram, twitter etc.

    Initially many countries had sat in the middle and were complacent, then there was that surge, with other things that angered the far right and voices started appearing in printed media and online.

    I've probably made a balls of what exactly he claimed was the start of it, but he reckoned it was a sleeping giant anyway.

    He had been researching it since the 80's iirc.

    I watched it as I was getting ready for work and having breakfast. I wouldn't normally watch TV, so wasn't paying great attention to it, it was only a few days later, maybe a week that I was retrospectively going over what he was saying and thought he made good points. if anyone knows the guy I'm talking about, would be great if you could put me out of my misery and name him. I've searched a few times without success. I don't even know if I could say what he looked like, older with thinning grey hair I think..

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 13 minutes ago (1 child)

    Not that Peter tachiel fellah (idk his politics but that description matches him)

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  • [–] 1 point 11 minutes ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago)

    Dunno. I'll look him up..I don't think this guy leaned left or right. Or at least didn't seem to during that. He just spoke of his research. I left out tons obviously. But think that was the jist of it.

    Edit..

    Hmm.... I'm not sure.. it doesn't look like him in some images (thick head of hair and thinner), but then in other images. I think this guy wrote about it, either in papers or a book.

    Thanks, I'll look a bit more into that guy.

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  • [–] 1 point 22 minutes ago (2 children)

    Jordan Peterson wrote a rather interesting essay earlier this year about the situation in the UK:

    https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/blog/theyre-not-rape-gangs/

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  • [–] 2 points 43 minutes ago

    Disindustrialisation, reduction of purchasing power imo

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