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Yeah. Pretty reasonable tbh this one fuck stalkers

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  • [–] 2 points 9 hours ago

    It's interesting that I've never seen a single Korean news article about this. And this is a country where even the petty stupid arguments between neighbors make national news.

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  • [–] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 child)

    So how does this work if a convicted stalker just lives or works within a few km of where a victim lives or works?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 hours ago

    I feel this does nothing to stop a crime, just reassigns victims.

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  • [–] 148 points 1 day ago (15 children)

    Victims can open the app and track a tagged suspect’s location and direction of travel once they come within a 2km radius. If that distance falls below 1km, police and probation authorities receive an alert and contact the victim.

    seams okay for me

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  • [–] 17 points 1 day ago* (14 children)

    That seems pretty short though, surely it would mean you are not allowed to live, work or even vist the same town they live or work in.

    Like if anyone I knew was to be my stalker, one of us would have to quit their job and sell their house to relocate.

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  • [–] 68 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    Stalking victims frequently have to move regularly to escape their stalkers. Stalkers needing to avoid one town is a minimal restriction for their offense.

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  • [+] -9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (3 children)

    The problem is when you think about actual non-stalkers.

    I think this is a too rough, crude, gross, extreme, disproportionate and easy to abuse and misuse “solution” for that problem.

    There are many overly narcissistic and self-centered people who are going to be thinking that anyone who walks in the same direction as they are necessarily an stalker, and then there is the issue of revenge, blackmail, hate crimes and so on that a person can commit with an application of that nature.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 hours ago (1 child)

    actual non-stalkers.

    If you're in the app, you've already been categorised by the legal system as a stalker. If non-stalkers are being categorised as such, that's the problem, not the app.

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  • Well, I have to admit that I didn't read the article, just the title, now I have read it and understood the system.

    Sorry, my bad for making a hasty conclusion.

    I still feel that it can be abused because for a non-stalker is difficult to actually prove in a meaningful way that they're not an stalker, and as such can be easily mislabeled. That's specially problematic when you take into account things like pretty privilege, poverty traps, class dynamics, etc.

    But at least now it seems a bit more reasonable. I just hope that it's used in a fair and responsible way.

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  • [–] 67 points 1 day ago* (3 children)

    Ankle tags if anyone is wondering:

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  • [–] 97 points 1 day ago (17 children)

    This is both a fitting punishment and a nightmare from a privacy perspective

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  • [–] 41 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    ...and a great security/relief for victims. I'm a vivid apologetic for privacy and security, but this seems like an acceptable thing.

    People seem to be fine to be transparent and 24/7 surveilleid with their phones. Some even seem to be fine to install doorcams from US-bigtech or spy-devices that can switch on a light. Heck, they even pay for those!

    This at least is a vers useful application of privacy invasion.

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  • [–] 5 points 18 hours ago

    People seem to be fine to be transparent and 24/7 surveilleid with their phones. Some even seem to be fine to install doorcams from US-bigtech or spy-devices that can switch on a light. Heck, they even pay for those!

    yeah, not us

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  • [–] -4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (3 children)

    Copy-paste from another comment I did:

    The problem is when you think about actual non-stalkers.

    I think this is a too rough, crude, gross, extreme, disproportionate and easy to abuse and misused “solution” for that problem.

    There are many overly narcissistic and self-centered people who are going to be thinking that anyone who walks in the same direction as they are necessarily an stalker, and then there is the issue of revenge, blackmail, hate crimes and so on that a person can commit with an application of that nature.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 hours ago (1 child)

    Well, if someone is falsefully labeled a stalker, then what happens? He won't come near.

    Also, as said, the chance this stalker is already fine with being tracked all around by every device he owns, is probably near 100, so who cares?

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  • Copy-paste because it's essentially the same response:

    Well, I have to admit that I didn't read the article, just the title, now I have read it and understood the system.

    Sorry, my bad for making a hasty conclusion.

    I still feel that it can be abused because for a non-stalker is difficult to actually prove in a meaningful way that they're not an stalker, and as such can be easily mislabeled. That's specially problematic when you take into account things like pretty privilege, poverty traps, class dynamics, etc.

    But at least now it seems a bit more reasonable. I just hope that it's used in a fair and responsible way.

    But also:

    Well, if someone is falsefully labeled a stalker, then what happens? He won't come near.

    Imagine that person works, lives or has something to do regularly there (i.e., medical checkouts, or accountability stuff, or legal stuff, idk). It's a huge problem if it's misused.

    And I'm not even against the victims, as almost everyone here thinks that I am because of the fact that I think this is a bit problematic. I just think that a better solution should be developed.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    You know what? I'm OK with a panopticon specifically for convicted stalkers. I realize the potential for a slippery slope, but I think the risk is worth it in this one case.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    It wont stay confined to stalkers, it'll start being used for poor people in general.

    Trangressions like being late to work will be held against you. You know they will.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago

    uses data from court-ordered electronic ankle monitors

    Soo, your line of thought says that we are all gonna gef an ankle monitor? At that point i doubt the app is the kickstarter of the problem...

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    [–] 15 points 1 day ago

    kinda poetic.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I imagine it makes beeping noises and displays a blip on a radar display like the proximity devices in alien movies. Shudders.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Now do the same with corporations and ceos

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    [–] -1 points 15 hours ago (1 child)

    Does that transform the victim to the stalker making the stalker the victim and the victim the stalker putting the anklet on the stalker because now they are the victim and the previous victim becomes the new stalker, making the previous stalker the new victim...

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  • [–] 2 points 7 hours ago*

    I think you're joking, but in case you're not... This is just like the paradox of tolerance, everyone has a right to privacy and freedom but if they violate other's rights, society will in exchange take away theirs. We don't (generally) call imprisoned criminals "victims of kidnapping" either.

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