cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/51671840

📌 Pinterest used ~500 Million ROWS¹ of user pins² to train it's AI!

Data from 2009-Now, however the Social Media corp claims "users have granted Pinterest a license".

What license? Pretty sure AI training fine print wasn't a thing in 2009!

It even includes "limited personal information".

Grounds for a lawsuit? 🤓

Âą Never heard of this unit ever before, but even if we assume 1 ROW = 4-6 Pins that is 2-3 BILLION user Pins!

² Post would sound way worse wouldn't it?

đź”— Source: https://help.pinterest.com/en/article/ai-at-pinterest

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[–] 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Why would a row be more than one pin? That's not how computering works.

And yeah, when you give a company license to do whatever they want with your data, "whatever they want" includes AI.

I mean, fuck Pinterest, but this isn't news.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    And yeah, when you give a company license to do whatever they want with your data, “whatever they want” includes AI.

    I think an important point is that with the decline of Pinterest's popularity, most of their data was probably acquired many years before genAI became mainstream. (Like I think I only used it around 2008-2010.) So most users probably never imagined their data could be used for training like this in the future.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    In data analytics you sometimes see some weird datasets spanning across a whole lot of columns with what would be otherwise normalised in different records with relations instead.

    Shit can be weird in data…

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  • [–] 24 points 2 days ago

    A row is just an entry in a database, I have no idea why you would assume each one represents 4-6. It's already bad enough, you don't need to misinform to make it appear worse, you'll only lose credibility.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 days ago

    If they were publicly available pins, and users agreed to the license that gave them permission to use their data, then they can do that.

    I think the broader issue is people being acclimated to permissive licenses, and not having privacy as a default

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  • Are there any good alternatives for pintrest?

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