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[–] 109 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)

As an EV owner, I have a bit of a mixed bag when it comes to people's opinions on EVs here. Many will approach me to genuinely ask about the car, the range anxiety, recharge, etc because they are curious and thinking on getting one.

Then there's "the others". People who for some weird reason hate EVs (especially now that gas is over 2€/lt) will approach me to throw hate on them parroting the usual silly remarks about battery degradation, range, lack of "engine sound"... And it's funny because I never open up a conversation about my EV, you won't see me trying to forcefully talk about it... so when I tell them that I don't care if they like EVs or not, they get even more pissed because they just want to shit on them and hope that I get upset or something? Idk, in Italy there's this kind of people who need to show others how noisy their car is and how manly they are for driving a car that is noisy.

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  • [–] 68 points 2 weeks ago

    Idk, in Italy there’s this kind of people who need to show others how noisy their car is and how manly they are for driving a car that is noisy.

    Oh how I wish that was only an Italian thing

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  • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago

    I find this fascinating because no one has ever said anything about my car. I was actually worried they would before I got an EV, because of stories like this.

    But I’ve had the car for six years now and I have only had pleasant interactions about it.

    They are extremely common here though, so that might be partly why.

    In fact, once I thought an elderly man was going to ask something snarky. He said “hey, can I ask about your car?” and then he very kindly asked about what the brake calipers were, because he literally had no idea. Then he said “it’s a really pretty car” and then I felt mentally bad for doubting the sweet old guy.

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  • Living in the inland northwest US I’ve never had anyone approach me to talk about EVs one way or another. I’ve been driving a Kia Niro EV for a year now. Not even the few times I’ve been into North Idaho.

    I don’t think I’d be bothered too much by some EV hater trying to be an ass either though given I’m not the one eating shit at the gas station. Charging from flat to full would cost me $6.40 at home… where I essentially do all my charging at 10¢ / kWh

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Have ya see much difference between Chinese EVs and European ones? I'd like to get me a BYD but it seems very expensive here.

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  • In price? To have a car that had a similar amount of equipment than my atto3, the average difference between the atto and the european brands was around 6-8k euros. And that's just considering the ADAS (like 360° cam, park sensors, autoswitching beams, etc). If I wanted an euro car with all the other "silly" things like the opening roof, the heated wheeldrive and seats, etc, we were going to almost 10k more expensive.

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    [–] 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (26 children)

    We rented an Ionic 5 for the weekend and I will be going back to gas because... uh, it's rented.

    Real talk, though, we're trying to find a good EV because it is better. I don't particularly like the Ionic 5, but that's mostly a hatred for crossovers than anything; also the severe lack of clicky buttons and stuff like automatic mirror dimming that isn't working right. Ugh.

    I just wish we had more options in the States, especially without the touch screen nonsense.

    Edit to complain: finished our trip and EV charging stations are so hit or miss. People worry about range but that's not it-- it's the fucking apps, flex time pricing and 350 kW chargers only putting out 50 kW for mysterious reasons. This shit needs some serious regulation in the US, fucking yikes.

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  • One of the reasons I got my BYD was because of the clicky buttons. Yes, I have the big touchscreen, but all the car controls have a clicky button that I can feel and touch without looking at a screen. Hell, even for the things that don't have a clicky button (like A/C temperature) you only need to swipe up or down with three fingers on any part of the screen to adapt it so there is nothing you need to find in the screen to drive the car.

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    [–] 27 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

    Uhh on what sites? Every driver I talk to online or otherwise have nothing but praise for EV.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

    Yes. Drivers.

    But the online mediasphere is chock-full of EV haters regurgitating propaganda about how they’re worse for the environment, the posters suddenly care about child labor in foreign countries, and then there’s the regressive mentally 14 year old tools who can’t handle a car that doesn’t spew noise and exhaust everywhere to make people look at them because that’s a real car. But none of them have owned an EV.

    I’m a big car fan, and IMO, the majority of car fans are backwards and stubborn. They can’t stand the idea of EV, they have to have the ability to make stupid power with lots of noise to drive to the mall. Thing is there’s room for both EV and ICE cars. They need to get a grip and stop hyperbolizing that it’s a binary choice, ICE is going to be around for a good while longer.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    I've seen YouTube videos of those car sales guys talking to customers and then regretting getting an EV because of the distance/range and lack of charging stations and stuff.

    How many of videos are real and all that, I have no idea. Also, most of those customers are rolling negative equity and stuff so not a great judgment.

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    [–] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Forget what you read online

    ... What was I doing, again?

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    [–] 23 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I'm the owner of a Mustang Mach-E, and I will never go back to gas, I spend between $0 - $20 CAD/month charging my vehicle.

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    [–] 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    My EV is quite possibly the most poorly planned decision of my life.

    I live in an apartment and cant charge it overnight. Its a leaf so it only has l2 slow charging and Chademo charging; i live in the US so it doesnt exist -- an adapter costs $750 minimum. I charge for 3 hours every week to go a maximum of 70 miles at a time. When its cold out, thats 4 or 5.

    I don't regret it at all, unironically, genuinely.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

    I have said it a million times. Whenever I drive a car with an internal combustion engine it feels so incredibly primitive.

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    [–] 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    But I read this online so, I should forget this too?

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    [–] 19 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

    However, 100% of fossil-based vehicle drivers will end up driving EVs.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    Except for the ones who park in the garage, close the door, and leave the engine running to escape the pain of existence.

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    [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago*

    But do stay alert. O&G and combustion car manufactures are spending billions on propaganda to make you change your mind.

    Even mechanics, gas station attendants, and car dealers will spin records to make EVs look bad and turn you into their next customer.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)

    I'll buy an EV when I find a reputable manufacturer that isn't microtransacting or requires to have a "smart" system installed in it.

    same goes for any non-ev built after 2013.

    I want a car, not a device.

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    [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago*

    180,000 MILES on my EV! Best purchase I've ever made. The amount of money saved on maintenance and fuel (got free charging at work and now a neighborhood hub has a free charger). Love it!!

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago

    Thats basically what every poll/study I ever read online said...

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    I would never go back to ICE. But I do miss driving a car with a clutch sometimes.

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    [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago

    What do you mean about what you read online? Am I going to the wrong places? This stat sounds perfectly reasonable to me, and I don't even drive one.

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