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Why does that always seem to happen? (thelemmy.club)
submitted 3 weeks ago by [M] to c/tenforward@lemmy.world
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[–] 41 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    TBF, the war never seems to happen. Even when Picard decloaked the Pegasus right in front of a warbird to show how thoroughly Starfleet was breaking the treaty, nothing really came of it.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I'm gonna be "that guy"

    Starfleet didn't break the treaty (strictly on a technicality, while it wasn't technically a cloak, it served almost the same purpose) , and even if they did, romulans routinely wipe their ass with it anyway.

    The treaty only ever limited starfleet, and only starfleet cared to follow the rules. When the contract is so blatantly and consistently broken by one side, the other is not beholden to it.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago

    Well, Picard and Co seemed to agree it broke the treaty, so lacking access to the actual text I think we have to take their word for it. It could say something insanely general, like "any technology that renders a ship invisible to the naked eye..."

    Can't argue with everything else you said, though.

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    • [–] 32 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    It's incredible how often they run into each other when space is so big.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Almost like they both hone in on a distress call signal!

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    In TNG, seems like Romulans wouldn’t really respond to a distress call. At least not with helpful intent. But in later series maybe. Or maybe that is all Federation propaganda.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Not respond, just get there to see if any federation ships would answer it. Its all about posturing

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    • [–] 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I think the implication is that the Romulans are constantly patrolling the neutral zone. the Federation knows this and pretends it isn't happening as they dont want to get into a conflict.

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    • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago

    Romulan Ship: "What are you doing in the neutral zone?"

    Enterprise: "What are you doing in the neutral zone?"

    Romulan ship: "WE ASKED YOU FIRST!"

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    [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I've always viewed the Romulans as solely trying to goad the Federation into a war but not start one themselves. I can't tell if it's a superiority thing or they think they'll have some twisted moral high ground.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago

    They're manufacturing reasons to start a conflict. Like the reason the Vietnam War started was because a Vietnamese fishing boat got too close to a US war ship which was seen as an attack, then the US war ships mistook a the sonar ping off a school of fish as an underwater attack and used that as justification to escalate a war with Vietnam.

    Romulans are probably doing the same thing, they're using their cloaking tech to secretly parol much closer than they should be, and constantly looking for the Federation breaking the neutral zone rules to turn the interstellar community against the Federation. Basically they're itching for the Federation to throw the first real punch so the romulans look like the victims.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago*

    They are the Russians in the Cold War, or basically the Russians now. They are a despotic empire that has spats on its borders, signs treaties with no intention of adhering to them, invades their neighbors, is hyper aggressive with espionage, and sees the Federation as weak for not doing likewise without realizing that what makes the Federation strong is that they have a rule based system and a moral code.

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    • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Lurking proved to be a solid strategy for a couple centuries. That is, until they got poetically hoodwinked into the Dominion War. Then their planet asploded by different reasons depending on which universe you were in. Only after near a millennium are they reunited with their ancestral brethren... damn. Romulans really got put through the ringer.

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    • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    The distress call may have been caused by the Romulans, and/or the Romulans actually have a fuck ton of covert operations in the Neutral Zone thanks to their cloaking device.

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