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[–] 129 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's illegal for you to do that because you're not a billionaire.

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  • [–] 41 points 3 weeks ago*

    yes, thank you, fuck!

    I don't know why people don't seem to get this. It doesn't matter if they are being lawful or not, fascists will shape the laws to achieve their own goals.

    The law has always been a tool used by the ruling class to subjugate the working class, it has never been moral. Hell, this isn't even just fascism, its capitalism. Even in Canada, the RCMP were quite literally created to control indigenous people.

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  • [–] 96 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Since this was posted he had his house removed from Google Maps

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  • [–] 51 points 3 weeks ago*

    The irony, of course, is if you want to beat whatever charges they throw at you, you'll also have to be filming yourself the entire time.

    The YouTubes are awash with auditors who set up a camera in a public place and have the cops make up all sorts of stories about them to fabricate or threaten an arrest.

    Check your state laws about filming private residences, though, that might get squirrely.

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  • [–] 43 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Benn Jordan and Tommy G tried this. It didn't take long before police were called to remove them from the public road next to Flock HQ.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    did he say why they "must compromise"?

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  • [–] 27 points 3 weeks ago

    Flock CEO must "compromise" on his oxygen consumption.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Or track ones private jets takeoffs and landings

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  • [–] 23 points 3 weeks ago
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    This is the thing that I don't get about the legality of this shit. If I set up a camera aimed at my neighbor's driveway and intentionally logged every coming and going of he, his wife, his kids... I could justiably be charged with stalking. But so long as I set up a network of cameras and track my neighbor's every whereabouts with this network and sell access to this data to anyone interested... that's not stalking. That's just good American business.

    That is without the added layer of law enforcement involvement, tax dollar support, and absolutely no public say in the matters, etc.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago

    Theyre different than his product because you would have a lot less information and arent able to follow him to his destination.

    I seriously believe that unless a guillotine is involved things will continue to just get worse.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    The history of the US is filled with "nah, capital can do what it wants".

    Nothing will change while power is consolidated in the hands of the few.

    I do wonder about who works at flock. Surely they have options to resist and sabotage from the inside.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    I do wonder about who works at flock. Surely they have options to resist and sabotage from the inside.

    I have to admit, the fact that their HQ is within commuting distance has crossed my mind.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    How about he lead by example, and have a fleet of drones follow him providing a 24/7 publicly available feed.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago*

    How to roll out nation-wide public cameras against the peoples interests?

    1. have a visible and clumsy company (Palantir) distract the public
    2. have a second company (Axon) quietly roll out hidden cameras
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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    The answer is, he is an individual, and Flock cameras are not targeting any one individual, at least not in theory.

    Also, I see the argument he's making. The argument is, if it were your child who was kidnapped, would you not want your neighbors to give up some of their privacy in order to turn cameras on every corner toward getting your child home safely? But the problem with that is, Flock cameras are not bringing kidnapped kids home. Neither are Ring doorbells, which are just as bad. What they are doing is making life worse for people of colour and anyone else They want to target. So that's the problem. The parent can't blame their neighbours (particularly their dark-skinned neighbours) for wanting their privacy when a child's safety is on the line, because the Flock cameras are not bringing any children home. That's not what they're for, and pretending they are is bullshit and everybody on both sides knows it. We COULD use all this tech for good. But the people who run it don't want to. They've proven this time and again. So no, they do not get the benefit of the doubt. No, they do not get to take the high road, even hypothetically.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    The argument is, if it were your child who was kidnapped......

    (note we're on the same page I'm just ranting out loud) Yeah lets take worst case scenarios that dont actually happen in any numbers worth concerning oneself over. if you're worried just design a radio chip for kids arms that will ping cell towers and inject them with that. there your kids are safely trackable.

    this not only wouldnt reduce everyone elses privacy and security from the state but would cost less.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    There are shoes where an AirTag (or similar device) can be concealed in the heel so children can be tracked. Apparently it's well embedded and the child doesn't feel it when they walk, and it's difficult to detect/remove.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago

    Rapist mindset.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    I'm pretty sure my Yankee friends do not have to compromise whatsoever. Fuck this CEO. I hope you guys guillotine him.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    Hey, thanks for the support. Being an American these days feels like everyone is against you.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Those outside the USA bitch about us butting in with no understanding of political nuance in their country sure do the same to us.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Tbf, I think many of us outsiders understand the nuance of the USA more than the average American understands about other countries', because we are bombarded constantly with your news and actually need to pay attention since the actions of your country affect us greatly.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I see a lot of people saying that Trump voters and those that voted against him are the same and deserve the same treatment. As well a surprising amount that are blood thirsty and wanting to see us start gunning each other down.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Again, as a counterpoint, I also see similar comments on other countries' oppressive governments too.

    It's always, "why aren't they resisting?" Or, "they wouldn't dare try this on me! I've got guns and I'll fight back!"

    In the end, we all talk tough on the internet and expect everyone to be as heroic as us we imagine ourselves to be. Just do your best out there, and stay safe.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    It's irresponsible to even write that headline. The reporter knew it was false and had an ethical obligation to do better.

    Sigh.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    This is a horrific example. It's very legal to do what is described above.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Beat him with a pillowcase full of oranges

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Is that child in the picture the CEO?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Punchable face. They always have a face that wants to be punched. Why?

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