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[–] 20 points 2 hours ago

Came to say, looks like a certain business needs to rework their business model or go bust.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 hours ago

    if you can't afford to pay your staff properly, you can't afford to run a business here.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    Why should the customer also be paying the $3.40?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago

    Oh don't worry, you are! In many states, the first chunk of tips goes to cover the employee contribution. Essentially the waiter makes either tips or hourly, which ever is higher, so until the tips are larger than the base pay, your tips are really just saving the employer money. Does this make sense? No. Is it common in states not called California and New York? Absolutely!

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  • [–] 43 points 5 hours ago

    "If you can't afford to pay your fucking employees even the minimum wage, you don't deserve to run a business."

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  • [–] 15 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

    I prefer countries that don't tip and just pay their employees a reasonable wage. Also when did the tip jump from 15% customary to 25% to 35% minimum? Anyways they're right, vote with your dollars to not be a customer of establishments abusing the tip system to pay their employees slave wages. Maybe last note, as far as I'm aware if tips don't make up the difference the employer is legally inclined to pay their staff at least minimum wage in most places.

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  • In New Zealand, we declare that tipping culture can go fuck off. We don't have it and don't want it here. I had an american friend come to visit and he thought we were stoopid for not tipping, and he tipped everyone anyway to show mercy to all us oppressed souls over here.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 hours ago

    I thought the normal tip for satisfactory service was 15%.

    Dont do well, ignore me, make faces if i ask for more water.... then lucky to get anything.

    20% and over was for really good service of something they did for you above and beyond.

    When did 25 and 30% become normal

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  • [–] 140 points 8 hours ago (3 children)
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    [–] 32 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
  • [–] 30 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (4 children)

    Yeah, lot of people here are falling hard for this AI rage-slop. Besides the customer on the right having no legs (or the world's weirdest chair), there's no visible way this printout is attached to the window, the reflection in the top left cuts off at what presumably is the bar top and then the reflection below it is inexplicably of a perpendicular street, the lack of a ceiling where a ceiling is implied to be and all that similar stuff, the type justification doesn't actually line up. (begrudging credit to r/isthisAI)

    It's a good fake but still pretty conclusively fake. And... honestly, it's worrying that people here are falling over themselves to comment as if this is real. Ya'll, we need to try and be a little bit less credulous with boomer memes, especially ones that perpetuate negative BS like this, otherwise we're basically no better than Facebook users.

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  • [–] 1 point 54 minutes ago (1 child)

    Adding the hourly wage into the math +2 Choosing $165 instead of $150 or $100 +1, underlined can't and not underlining can't +1 star emojis around thank you +2 choosein 25% intead of %15 or %18 +1 a period of every line even with conversational tone +1 There's a lot to go on there even if you don't follow the lines.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 child)

    I agree this is ai slop, but what's with the lines in the image? Never seen that before for judging if something is AI

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  • [–] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    With the latest models being much better for text, it's a fairly reliable technique - comparing the vanishing point at which each row or major horizontally justified element converges to see if everything is actually aligned (as they would be if a human created it in something like word) or all subtly askew (as gen AI creates it)

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    I don't know how reliable that is with lens distortion fucking up the vanishing point on real images.

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  • [–] 1 point 55 minutes ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago)

    It's unlikely you're using a collimating lens, so distortion is presumed! Not only is the impact of distortion fairly minimal, with radial distortion (by far the most common kind of distortion - usually synonymous with 'lens distortion') it's actually an important aspect; the angles will follow the regular pattern of the distortion and the technique will still work (If your photo has non-radial distortion, DM me; I want to know what on earth you were doing to cause that, it was probably a really entertaining story). As in the above image, the random scattering of the intersections is the indicator that the image was AI generated, not that the lines do not intersect at a single point.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 hours ago

    Fake yes but they are plenty of people who actually do believe this. As in people who are in support of mandatory tipping. Specially during covid it was not hard to find doordash or Uber eats drivers putting up videos complaining about not getting a tip or not getting a big enough tip. He had some of them filming themselves harassing people.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 hours ago

    If your customers can't afford to tip, you should consider paying your staff.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 hours ago

    This has to be fake... "we don't pay our staff..."

    "our people work damn hard ... for only $2.13/h"

    "show some respect ... to the workers we only pay $2.13/h"

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  • [–] 47 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    Businesses have successfully managed to underpay staff then shame customers for not making up for it. What a rotten culture.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 child)

    I mean, sure but Texas, Utah, North Carolina, Wyoming, and South Carolina accept the federal minimum wage for tipped employees of $2.13. I would argue that's the point, fake image or not. The implication being, if YOU don't tip then their wage for their work is valued at $2.13 an hour.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 child)

    That's not how the tipped minimum wage works - it's even more arcane and convoluted than that! If you don't tip, then their wage is the local minimum, it's only reduced to where $2.13 plus their tips exceed the local minimum (so if you tip $2, and the local minimum wage is $15, they would make $13 at minimum wage (all the places with a $15 minimum I know of have banned this bullshit)) and as you pointed out, in 45/50 states that's been to some small or large extent rejected. If that sounds like it would make accounting really hard, you win uh... well we're out of candy so your prize is depression. Congrats!

    It's a ridiculous system that should be abolished - but nearly all the criticism in these comments is treating it as though the exaggerated entitled behavior in the image is real - when nobody has actually behaved that way. If you think it's simply a meme that's fine, but it's presented as being an image from a real event, and that's what people need to be aware of.

    And beside all that - why are we comfortable accepting AI content when it reinforces our positions, but reject it otherwise?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

    Yeah, go ahead and tell your boss to actually adjust your hours because a table stiffed and watch your hours magically get cut. The math is easy, take your $2.13 and don't complain or you'll get the back tables by the kitchen and then only get scheduled for 20 hours next week.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago*

    Mmmhm. So when you file your taxes, this is checked for. It's fairly easy to confirm compliance from the taxes info your boss files + the tips you're 100% extremely dutifully reporting, especially if you do something like automatic withholding (as I understand it a colossal pain for a tipped position unless you're in one of the many states that has passed rules to make the process less absurd). This is why it's important to report things like tips, because it's the #1 way bosses like that are caught.

    Of course the economic reality discourages people from actually doing that, and thus we carve out yet more niche to stack exploitation in.

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  • [–] 91 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    JFC... How about "if you can't afford to pay your employees you can't afford your business."

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  • [–] 14 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    Leaving their point aside for a moment, their math is nonsensical, as they included the waiter's salary in the total.

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  • [–] 38 points 11 hours ago (1 child)

    I shouldn’t have to pay your staff with tips but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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  • [–] 6 points 8 hours ago (1 child)

    This just feels like the same thing as the idea of advertising the product in the shop without the tax added on, and then going to the till and the price being different. What's the point in the other price when that isn't the number i'm going to be paying.

    Just make the food cost the second price in the first place and pay your workers. Scumbags.

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    [–] 27 points 11 hours ago

    This offsets costs for the business and makes the customer compensate for lower wages. The whole point here is to make you pay for it not corporates and corporations. That's why taxes should be higher like 99%. Except they own politicians.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 hours ago

    I’d imagine this is fake, even here in America. No company name or anything.

    Too lazy right now to search

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  • [–] 11 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

    Get the fuck outta here with that 25%. You get 20% for good service, and if you're lucky I'll round up to the nearest dollar if I'm paying cash.

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    [–] 5 points 7 hours ago

    Take my business elsewhere, you say? Gotcha. And for the record, I tip very well.

    If this isn't fake, the proprietor is clearly completely tone deaf to the demands of the hospitality industry.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 hours ago (1 child)
  • [–] 23 points 11 hours ago

    They could have saved money on ink by stopping the printing after the 2nd line.

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