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Would one of those “Hate is not welcome here” signs prevent them from entering, or does that depend on if the vampire hates their victim? I don’t hate the cow in my cheeseburger, so I’m guessing not.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child)

    Even if she'd said yes, it wouldn't have been permission. She was merely assenting that he was seemingly capable of the act, if nothing else.

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  • [–] 103 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Just to be safe, throw out the welcome mat, and replace it with a "Do you have a warrant?" mat.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    If vampires gets warrants, do they still need to ask permission?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago

    Depends how they can interact with local laws.

    It's reasonable to conclude a temporary owner could invite someone in, just like a real one. If a warrant involved temporary possession, then the government that issued it would be able to invite someone in, and then if the vampire were charged with a search, that charge would be an invitation.

    Based on wording on example warrants in the US, however, they do not word it as a seizure of the building, even temporary. Makes sense, but at least a US-based vampire with a warrant would need to still be invited in.

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    [–] 66 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    This is the quality of Showerthoughts we should strive for.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    We need the community to get back to these.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 week ago

    A welcome door mat means the person is welcome to announce themselves by knocking or ringing a bell, it does not mean they are welcome to enter.

    If the mat said 'Come on in' then it would give anyone, including a vampire, permission to enter.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Sounds like a bit that could fit into What We Do in the Shadows. They could tell the camera how they enjoy how they are able to freely walk into half of modern residences nowadays whenever they want because idiot humans usually have a welcome mat that technically counts as an invitation.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    According to Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the answer is yes.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 week ago*

    This is/was "hotly debated". IMO public schools are like any other public thing and accessible to vamps generally, and Angel was just being sassy when Jenny asked him how he got in.

    But along those lines, my initial response was "Depends on who's writing" with the Angel/Jenny school scene in mind. "Enter all who seek knowledge" or whatever.

    Overall they were not very consistent when it came to the invitation thing.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 week ago* (3 children)

    Not to take this too literally but.... According to pagan and wiccan practices, the welcome mat gives permission to all potentially negative spirits to enter

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    [–] 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Wasn’t there a serial killer that said an unlocked door meant he was invited to go inside? That’s why I’ve never used a doormat that has “Welcome” on it. Hopefully that applies to vampires too.

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    [–] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    The trick is, it depends. All vampires are bound by obsessive compulsive behaviours, but the particular form that obsessive behaviour takes depends on a number of factors. The most prominent are age and culture of origin.

    More recently embraced American vampires tend to become absorbed in the minutiae of the contractual, legalistic formulation of things, so if they have an aversion to entering without permission, it is more based upon an obsession with the sanctity of individualized private property. This leads to the trait of rarely making a direct entry into a home for predatory purposes but rather a focus on convincing the victim it is in their best interest to give willingly their vital fluids and life force. Many victims of such vampires are not even fully aware of what they have had taken.

    Older vampires from a more European context take a more hierarchical approach to property. If your home is in their territory, you are their subject and, as such, no permission is needed to enter what is effectively their house, perhaps literally if they are your landlord.

    Other contexts, such as that of the Middle East of antiquity, produce vampires who hold sacred the unwritten yet iron clad laws of hospitality. They would never dream of entering unannounced, or taking more than a token sip from one who invites them willingly into their home, but equally would feel no compunction over slaughtering one who turned them away. To these, a welcome mat is an amusement, not an invitation, and only the most desperate leach would stoop to taking a whimsical decoration as written law.

    But then again, vampires are an imaginary metaphorical construct for describing the greedy people of a society, so really the answer is no.

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    [–] 23 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    My door mat says, "Dogs welcome, humans tolerated". I think I'm good.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Mine says GO AWAY.

    It's a door mat, not a welcome mat.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    My wife bought a welcome mat that says "please leave" in cursive. Highly recommend.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    My welcome mat says come back with a warrant. That should keep em away right?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 week ago

    How do you think the industry started?

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  • That's why mine has an asterisk and fine print on the bottom that says "*not supernaturally binding for blood suckers"

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    A no soliciting sign doesn't stop solicitors, so I don't see why a welcome mat should have any more power.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Depending on the jurisdiction, soliciting often requires a permit and conditions of the permit include obeying no soliciting signs. Failure to obey typically means the permit can be revoked, or it could be a criminal offense. Could be worth looking into that for your area.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago

    The apartment complex where I live is posted no soliciting. Management heavily encourages people to call the police if solicitors ignore the sign. Even more shocking, the police will actually come and throw solicitors off the property if they're contacted. (This is also the same police department that tracked down and got an arrest warrant for the random stranger who broke into my car the day after it happened)

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Welcome is present day "well met" or something more like "I'm happy you're here" not "please come in my house".

    So no, I think you can keep your mat; most vampires are probably old enough to take the original meaning anyway.

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    [–] 10 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    Only if the hemogoblin can read it. Just because they may have been around for centuries doesn't mean they've bothered to learn every language.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    My Grandpa always had a "hello" mat because he would say hello to anyone, but not everybody was welcome.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    I used to have one that said "Hi, I'm Mat" because I found it hilarious.

    We throw a party for my kid's birthday every year. My wife keeps taping signs to the front door for the party; they always say "come on in, the party's in the back!" I keep telling her that someday a vampire is going to take advantage of that, but she seems unconcerned.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago

    I'd expect yours to say "Well Cum" or some such

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago

    Only if you are Soooookie

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    Nope. But mine says "welcome foolish mortals."

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (1 child)
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    That's why I have one, but I'm still waiting on my dracula daddy to arrive

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