I wanted to explore this, it seems like it mostly happens in classic rock. I like it because it's like the group delivering a thesis statement for the content of their music or their intended commercial trajectory.

I think it works even better when it's done by a band later into their career, like they're reflecting on the culmination of their work. Can people link me examples? I'd love to see if this has happened more outside of the rock genre

Off the top of my head:

Bad Company (debut album)

Black Sabbath (debut album)

Damn Yankees (debut album)

Blue Öyster Cult (11th album)

Dimmu Borgir (8th album, black metal)

Run the Jewels (debut album, rap)

Eyes of Noctom (debut album, black metal, fun fact: this is Nicholas Cage's son)

Highwaymen (debut album, country)

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[–] 22 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

"Iron Maiden" by Iron Maiden off their debut album called "Iron Maiden".

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    Living in a Box, by Living in a Box from their debut album Living in a Box.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Then there's the band Flowers that released an album called Icehouse, and halfway through the release changed their name to Icehouse - to not be confused with a Scottish band called Flowers - so the early albums are called "Icehouse by Flowers" and the later ones "Flowers by Icehouse".

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    [–] 11 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    They Might Be Giants have a self titled track (but not album) included in their third album Flood

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Their first album is self titled, always bothered me that the eponymous song wasn't on the eponymous album.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    Lol what genre is this? I love the utterances of BOY

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Iron Maiden playing the song "Iron Maiden" from yheir album called "Iron Maiden": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufp75XlTp-Q

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Slave to the System by Slave to the System on their album Slave to the System.

    I thought this was the tackiest shit ever when I was younger, but looking it up now I guess they were a super group so the very on-the-nose-ness of it feels a little bit less bad. I have no idea how I came across the album but I listened to loads of random music.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Electric Wizard by Electric Wizard is easily one of my favorite songs by one of my favorite bands. I especially love when the wizard speaks in this song

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Ramones covered R.A.M.O.N.E.S. by Motörhead on their final album, Adios Amigos.

    Wilco (the song) appears on Wilco (the album), which is the seventh studio album of Wilco (the band).

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Big Country - In A Big Country

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    ABBA maddeningly released an album called ABBA and an album called ABBA: The Album

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    green day

    motorhead

    slip knot

    rammstein

    canned heat

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Oh hell yeah, I wish I had known about that Rammstein one long ago. I need to catch up with their music. The video was adequately sexually charged and disconcerting for what I would expect from them

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    adequately sexually charged and disconcerting for what I would expect from them

    Sadly this seems to apply in the worst possible way to Till Lindemann on a private level as well. 🤮

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Indeed. One of my favorite people said that there's something more deeply wounding about sex crimes when they're perpetrated by people from countercultural and alternative art movements. Like a huge thesis of counterculture is that there should be nothing to fear in the darker aspects of the human experience. But then a guy like Till or Manson or Victor Salva will fuck it all up. They reinforce the cultural narratives about fear of the other, social hierarchy, and the invincibility that their fame earns them.

    Those ones really fuck me up

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yup.

    Another issue I have is when artists make art about the fucked up sides of human nature, and you buy into it and think they are brilliant for portraying it. And then you find out that nope, they're just giant creeps who tell on themselves. It makes it pretty much impossible for me to enjoy their art after.

    I believe, in some degree, in separating the art from the artist. I can listen to the Beatles even though Lennon was a wife beater, though the line "I used to be cruel to my woman I'd beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loves" hits a bit harder than it should. But when the art mirrors the artist it becomes impossible. The jokes of Louis CK would have aged a lot better had they not all been about behaving like a total creep. With Rammstein I can't help but feel that the trademark uneasiness is just Till telling on himself, and I feel like a gullible idiot for using to enjoy it without realizing it wasn't an act. Like the joke was on me.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago

    That's EXACTLY what it is. Like, oh you weren't portraying anything artistically this is just how you live.

    Same, I like to think I can and prefer to appreciate art sperate from the artist's private lives. But that's the kind of transgression that rewrites and recontextualizes the work. Also that Louis CK shit is wild because if you listen to him talk about it afterwards he still doesn't really understand what went wrong with what he was doing. Now that I'm thinking about it this might have been why I never checked in on Rammstein after the last time I heard they were still making music

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Big in Japan were not from Japan but they were big in Japan after they released their single "Big in Japan".

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    [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Belle and Sebastian had a song called Belle and Sebastian

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    This one always makes me laugh. Living in a Box on the album "Living in a Box" by the band "Living in a Box"

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Angel Witch - Angel Witch - Angel Witch

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Seethed has one. It's a b-side that was eventually released on the album "Curiosities, Rarities, and Paraiahs."

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I heard one yesterday from the band Hammerfall (I'm sure you can guess the name of the song).

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    [–] 3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Self-titled albums were a big thing in the sixties, when the record industry was still starting properly. David Bowie's first two albums are both named ‘David Bowie’. With some artists, it's a bit difficult to track all this crap, since vinyls were basically issued whenever anyone was at the factory and not when the artist had a particularly artistic vision.

    Weezer had a gag about it, putting out seven albums named ‘Weezer’ over thirty years, the latest one upcoming in a week.

    Songs are different, of course, but the reason you see them in classic rock is probably because those dudes are old.

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    [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Cloven Hoof, with Album Cloven Hoof and first track Cloven Hoof.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Crash Land - Crash Land is one of my fave songs, which has been in my rotation for quite a long time. Originally one of the remixes made its way into a playlist of mine. When I checked out the original, I was hooked.

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    Shadows of Paradise

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    This doesn't fit the prompt in a technical sense, but does so thematically:

    The band originally known as Imagica changed their name due to overlap with another artist. For one week they went by Nothing and Nowhere (shared with their first album and a track that would appear on a later album) before settling on their current name, The Birthday Massacre. The Birthday Massacre was the original third track of the Nothing and Nowhere LP, but was renamed Happy Birthday during the band's final name change.

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