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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

Nearly half isn't nearly enough. Who is educating the youth today? /s

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 hours ago

Red scare incoming.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 14 points 13 hours ago

Shit. More than half of the older generations do as well, as long as you can frame the argument without using the "Boogeyman" words.

[-] Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org 4 points 2 hours ago

Talking to anyone MAGA about politics is so maddening because you'll ask: Do you want (DSA policy)? Yes. Do you think that (DSA policy)? Yes. Would you like it if (DSA policy)? Yes. Do you want (MAGA policy)? No, that's insane! What do you think of (MAGA policy)? No!

Ok, who are you voting for? Anyone with an (R)!

Oh FFS.

[-] stickly@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

D*tic Sists of America

[-] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

Is that percentage supposed to make people feel good about things?

[-] protist@retrofed.com 24 points 17 hours ago

I absolutely hate this increasing focus on the term "Democratic Socialism." Y'all, focus on the fucking issues. James Talarico, who is doing really well in Texas, has never mentioned or associated with the term, but for example the headline on his last newsletter was "Trickle-Down Economics is Theft." Please, please, please focus on the actual issues like he is, that's how we win.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 hours ago

We need to do both I think. Being scared of the term is how the right has been able to hold so much power. We need to take back control and make it not a boogyman.

However, also, most people support leftist policy. Many don't support leftists. Many leftist policies are actually popular among Republican voters if they're only given a description and not told it's leftist or socialist.

Basically, we need to use both strategically. People pushing the DSA, and other leftists groups, can normalize it, and politicians needing to win in contested elections can use the policy, without the label, to move policy forward.

[-] protist@retrofed.com 2 points 2 hours ago

Great response right here. Thank you for this

[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 14 points 14 hours ago

Nah, I disagree. People who focus on the issues get called socialists, and ten years ago, that would have been a big blow against your campaign. It's good that people like socialism now, because it means people like Mamdani and El-Sayed don't have to work as hard to be perceived as legitimate politicians. They can be out and proud about it and still win elections. This could be the seed of a leftward shift in society.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 12 hours ago

I'm an old guy, and after a lifetime of getting buried by all the bullshit that both parties have shoveled, I'm embracing it. It's even worse for young people today. I didn't come out of college with a lifetime of student debt as big as a mortgage, with earning potential barely above a living wage, IF you're lucky.

Our current system is unsustainable, but societal collapse is part of the business model for trillionaires, who can then take over, and reconfigure the world to suit them.

[-] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

El-Sayed is pro Palestine but is explicitly not a socialist no? He is a progressive but he is a capitalist.

I get your point though. We need to work to keep shifting the culture back our way so we keep gaining more room to make more aggressive and expansive arguments people will listen to.

[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago

We really need to win back the word from the bigots. I think we can't proceed without doing that.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

We tried McCarthy's way.

It's fucked us over. So yeah. the headline might as wel be "Over half of YoUnG MuRiCaNs are too stupid to realize they're being fucked over by fascists!"

[-] loaf@sh.itjust.works 41 points 20 hours ago
[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

still not enough of them so vote blue no matter who when you get the chance

don't be sore losers lol

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 24 points 19 hours ago

My younger coworker surprised me recently when she, unprompted, told me that she was considering becoming a communist more and more these days.

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 14 hours ago

Half of young people don't back democratic socialism? That's wild.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

We've had a century of being taught socialism is evil. The word is essentially poisoned in American politics.

[-] KulunkelBoom@lemmus.org 5 points 14 hours ago

Well they goddam sure don't want their taxes going to rich people or murdering people in foreign countries.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 13 hours ago

That's Commie talk!

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago
[-] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 0 points 14 hours ago

Hey Karl. Loved the econ book but we warned you about states bro

[-] switcheroo@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago

Good good. Keep it up, kiddos. This will be YOUR WORLD some day when all the boomers finally die the fuck out, so you need to stand up to make sure that you inherit a world that isn't completely fucked.

[-] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 25 points 20 hours ago

If young Americans voted that would mean something.

[-] SPRUNTnsfw@fedinsfw.app 4 points 13 hours ago

If Americans in general voted it would be great. Our turnout rate is atrocious.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Oh my gees you guys, it's almost like if you make everything completely non-functional for everyone except a couple of billionaires, people start to think the system sucks fucking balls.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 13 hours ago

Not really, they just back commons sense reforms that are desperately needed in this country, and the DemSocs are the only ones that will even acknowledge them. If the Dems were doing their jobs, we would gladly back them, but they've given us no choice. If we want these perfectly normal things that the rest of the world has, then it's the DemSocs that are the only chance of getting them.

[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, but will you actually vote?

[-] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago

Sadly it's about all they do.

just saying, the guillotine is getting really dusty, guys.

[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 6 points 14 hours ago

I think there's a correlation between direct action and voting. There's people who go outside and do something, anything. And then there's people who sit inside and complain about every effort to make the world a better place.

[-] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

The people calling for guillotines arent voting or protesting or calling their reps or going to town hall or anything.

Id be highly surprised if they werent all just glowies with too much time on their pensions

[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 12 hours ago

To be fair, I support guillotines. But I don't consider them a viable tactic of serious politics in our current social climate. Guillotines are great for after the revolution, and we've got a long way to go before then. We need to form mutual aid networks that can mobilise into militias to take over the government. And we need to buy time for the revolution by voting against fascism, because otherwise our freedom fighters will be put in concentration camps.

[-] Loco_Mex@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

Guillotines after the revolution are for revenge fantasy losers. Once you have won, you do not need to kill people.

Guillotines are for during the revolution when you cannot guarantee you can keep them from getting back power.

[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago

At least we can die happy now

[-] obbeel@kbin.earth 4 points 18 hours ago

More democracy can't be bad.

[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I like to think that a big a chunk of the remaining half won't settle for anything less than worker ownership of the means of production.

[-] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

We can hope. DSA is run by reformists in NYC and LA atm but there is a massive contingent of communists taking over the reigns of the org bit by bit (I'm one of them. We are coming for this org and are going to make it the party we need)

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