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Poll Demonstrates Nearly Half of Young Americans Back Democratic Socialism (truthout.org)
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[–] 44 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The kids are alright.

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    [–] 27 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    If young Americans voted that would mean something.

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    • [–] 26 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    I absolutely hate this increasing focus on the term "Democratic Socialism." Y'all, focus on the fucking issues. James Talarico, who is doing really well in Texas, has never mentioned or associated with the term, but for example the headline on his last newsletter was "Trickle-Down Economics is Theft." Please, please, please focus on the actual issues like he is, that's how we win.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Nah, I disagree. People who focus on the issues get called socialists, and ten years ago, that would have been a big blow against your campaign. It's good that people like socialism now, because it means people like Mamdani and El-Sayed don't have to work as hard to be perceived as legitimate politicians. They can be out and proud about it and still win elections. This could be the seed of a leftward shift in society.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    I'm an old guy, and after a lifetime of getting buried by all the bullshit that both parties have shoveled, I'm embracing it. It's even worse for young people today. I didn't come out of college with a lifetime of student debt as big as a mortgage, with earning potential barely above a living wage, IF you're lucky.

    Our current system is unsustainable, but societal collapse is part of the business model for trillionaires, who can then take over, and reconfigure the world to suit them.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    El-Sayed is pro Palestine but is explicitly not a socialist no? He is a progressive but he is a capitalist.

    I get your point though. We need to work to keep shifting the culture back our way so we keep gaining more room to make more aggressive and expansive arguments people will listen to.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    We need to do both I think. Being scared of the term is how the right has been able to hold so much power. We need to take back control and make it not a boogyman.

    However, also, most people support leftist policy. Many don't support leftists. Many leftist policies are actually popular among Republican voters if they're only given a description and not told it's leftist or socialist.

    Basically, we need to use both strategically. People pushing the DSA, and other leftists groups, can normalize it, and politicians needing to win in contested elections can use the policy, without the label, to move policy forward.

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    • [–] 21 points 2 months ago

    Good good. Keep it up, kiddos. This will be YOUR WORLD some day when all the boomers finally die the fuck out, so you need to stand up to make sure that you inherit a world that isn't completely fucked.

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    [–] 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Shit. More than half of the older generations do as well, as long as you can frame the argument without using the "Boogeyman" words.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Talking to anyone MAGA about politics is so maddening because you'll ask: Do you want (DSA policy)? Yes. Do you think that (DSA policy)? Yes. Would you like it if (DSA policy)? Yes. Do you want (MAGA policy)? No, that's insane! What do you think of (MAGA policy)? No!

    Ok, who are you voting for? Anyone with an (R)!

    Oh FFS.

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    • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

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    • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Yeah, but will you actually vote?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Sadly it's about all they do.

    just saying, the guillotine is getting really dusty, guys.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I think there's a correlation between direct action and voting. There's people who go outside and do something, anything. And then there's people who sit inside and complain about every effort to make the world a better place.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The people calling for guillotines arent voting or protesting or calling their reps or going to town hall or anything.

    Id be highly surprised if they werent all just glowies with too much time on their pensions

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    To be fair, I support guillotines. But I don't consider them a viable tactic of serious politics in our current social climate. Guillotines are great for after the revolution, and we've got a long way to go before then. We need to form mutual aid networks that can mobilise into militias to take over the government. And we need to buy time for the revolution by voting against fascism, because otherwise our freedom fighters will be put in concentration camps.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Guillotines after the revolution are for revenge fantasy losers. Once you have won, you do not need to kill people.

    Guillotines are for during the revolution when you cannot guarantee you can keep them from getting back power.

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    • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Red scare incoming.

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    [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Well they goddam sure don't want their taxes going to rich people or murdering people in foreign countries.

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    • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Half of young people don't back democratic socialism? That's wild.

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    • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    More democracy can't be bad.

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    [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Not really, they just back commons sense reforms that are desperately needed in this country, and the DemSocs are the only ones that will even acknowledge them. If the Dems were doing their jobs, we would gladly back them, but they've given us no choice. If we want these perfectly normal things that the rest of the world has, then it's the DemSocs that are the only chance of getting them.

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    [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Is that percentage supposed to make people feel good about things?

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    [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Nearly half isn't nearly enough. Who is educating the youth today? /s

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    [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    At least we can die happy now

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    [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    Oh my gees you guys, it's almost like if you make everything completely non-functional for everyone except a couple of billionaires, people start to think the system sucks fucking balls.

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    [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    We tried McCarthy's way.

    It's fucked us over. So yeah. the headline might as wel be "Over half of YoUnG MuRiCaNs are too stupid to realize they're being fucked over by fascists!"

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    [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    I like to think that a big a chunk of the remaining half won't settle for anything less than worker ownership of the means of production.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago*

    We can hope. DSA is run by reformists in NYC and LA atm but there is a massive contingent of communists taking over the reigns of the org bit by bit (I'm one of them. We are coming for this org and are going to make it the party we need)

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