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Dev at id Software says Microsoft 'burned a lot of bridges' in the industry: 'They fundamentally don't understand art, they don't understand games' (www.pcgamer.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to c/games@lemmy.world

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[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

they don't understand humans, or computers, or business, or laws

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[–] jlow@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

What do they understand? Money!

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago*

Sometimes not even money. Microslop was left holding the bag when they jacked up the price of Gamepass and suddenly it became unaffordable for a lot of customers, and spent billions on a lemon. Sony is actively alienating their supporters, rejecting their largest market, and going all-in on a game that can't even reach five thousand daily concurrent players on Steam because they've also already spent billions on a lemon. Bad calls and sunk costs all around.

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children)

In this thread, we each call out a stupid decision Microsoft made in the past!

Microsoft passed on Alan Wake 2.

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child)

But they okayed Alan Wake's American Nightmare.

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (1 child)

True. Props for that, at least.

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

I didn't mean that in a very positive way.

I know there's a post-hoc artistique justification where Alan is a hack writer and everything in the dark place is only as good as his imagination... but a poorly made game is still a poorly made game, and trying to shove half of a Max Payne action shooter into an Alan Wake game is just asking for disappointment (just ask Amnesia fans about pigs).

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[–] MetaStatistical@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm still puzzled that they made their masterpiece in SOMA and then wasted years of their life on Amnesia sequels. At least ONTOS is on the horizon.

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[–] raze2012@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

They bought out Rare and did nothing with them for 15 years. Now they are just "The Sea of Thieves" devs.

Imagine a timeline where they became a 2nd party Nintendo studio instead.

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[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

They didn't do nothing, they did viva pinata and Kinect 🙃

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[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Bro they don't even understand software.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

And yet, they will make billions more because gamers don't care. They will keep buying their slop and using their slopware.

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[–] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works [S] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child)

Gamers do care, they are buying less of their slop and using their slop ware way less

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

Sure, that's why profits have been up.

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[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

Profits partly went up because of their LMG

(Layoff Machine Gun)

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[–] raze2012@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

You'd think they'd understand tech at the bare minimum. But slashing your team of highly technical people who made engines for almost 30 years sure disproves that notion.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't know about all that, didn't they develop Windows just to have a platform to play FreeCell Solitaire?

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

No, it was a GUI designed on top of MS-DOS specifically to import Minesweeper from IBM OS/2.

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[–] SilverCode@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago

Windows is a 32-bit hardware extension and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition

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[–] EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.app 12 points 2 weeks ago

They don't even bundle it with windows anymore 😖

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[–] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 1 point 2 weeks ago

It's really something they bought together one of the strongest portfolios of gaming companies and franchises you can think of. And then they are just sitting on it, doing nothing with it, dissolving studios and firing people. They have Elder Scrolls and Fallout. Starcraft and Warcraft. Age of Empires. All dead.