The Minns government is set to introduce new laws into New South Wales parliament, so that the power NSW police has to require people to provide access to their digital devices, in order to a facilitate scan and download of their content on execution of a warrant and at threat of prison, is available during more routine arrests, roadside stops and other lawful detentions.

The October 2022-enacted digital evidence access order regime provides that police can obtain a DEAO when executing search and crime scene warrants, and if the subject of the order refuses this, then it’s an offence carrying up to 5 years prison time. And as the section containing this criminal offence notes, this measure overrides the common law right against self-incrimination.

However, once NSW police officers have obtained access to a suspect’s phone, they don’t simply scroll through the owner’s latest social media posts, as rather, they employ a device and software developed by Israeli digital forensics company Cellebrite that once connected to a civilian’s phone downloads its entire content, including all deleted messages and images.

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[–] 22 points 1 month ago

Fuck Minns he’s been nothing but a totalitarian prick even to the point of the NSW High Court ruling their anti-protest laws were unconstitutional.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    What sort of hellish, dystopian 1984 are we becoming?

    I remember people used to be horrified about the lack of rights and excessive powers in China, and meanwhile the politicos are "That sounds great! Let's get it running ASAP!"

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago

    To get the same level of invasion of privacy you would need to have the cops drive over to your house in the 1990s and rifle through your address book, family photos, personal sex tapes (if you had those), listen to your mix tapes, read your mail, and go through all of your receipts for everything you bought. Basically everything you do in your day to day. All with one warrant...

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Time to set those Duress passcodes and “Erase on incorrect passcode.”

    Also memorise how to quickly disable biometric login.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    learn the lesson from the American guy whos currently being prosecuted for doing that very thing in front of customs. you need to start the procedure before the cops come up to your car. And make sure anything you need to keep is backed up. and use a burner when travelling, these governments are getting more and more nosey in all our affairs.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I feel like I'm missing info here. Do they need a warrant for this? Or is this some weird thing where they are able to arbitrarily generate a warrant to do this as needed?

    I wonder if graphene will end up having a minimalist shadow profile that you can log into full of benign text and stock photos. The danger here is that cellbright might might find a way to escape that I guess.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Reading through the article it kind of sounded like they currently need a warrant but they’re looking to change it to a free-for-all. Though I may be wrong because it is kind of confusing.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Probably deliberately confusing. They assume we know what a DEAO is for one.

    https://catronsimmons.com.au/digital-evidence-access-orders/

    This was somewhat helpful. Right now it needs to be as part of a court issued warrant.

    Honestly, decriminalisation of drugs will solve 90% of the shit they are trying to fight.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago*

    The article is deliberately a lot of things imo, none of them good. It's not written by a lawyer btw, important to note that.

    The point about the warrant is the only thing that matters here, and I'd argue it's meaningless when we are talking about lawful seizure.

    A warrant provides you with the legal authority to search for the device, inside a private residence for example. When a cop witnesses a crime and sees that a device is relevant to that crime they can seize it without a warrant. In that case the idea of getting a warrant is superfluous and only a thing because the DEAO law explicitly says so.

    They will still need to apply for the DEAO from the same kind of judicial officer that would sign their warrants to get into it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    The argument is the DEAO is basically a warrant anyway, it needs to be signed off on by the same authorised officers (magistrates, registrars, etc).

    All a warrant does is grant the legal authority to go looking for the device. If a cop sees you filming a murder on your phone and arrests you they can already seize your device without a warrant. So a warrant wouldn't grant any more authority than the cop already has at that time.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Do they need a warrant for this? Or is this some weird thing where they are able to arbitrarily generate a warrant to do this as needed?

    It says in the first paragraph

    The Minns government is set to introduce new laws into New South Wales parliament, so that the power NSW police has to require people to provide access to their digital devices, in order to a facilitate scan and download of their content on execution of a warrant and at threat of prison, is available during more routine arrests, roadside stops and other lawful detentions.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Wow, how many passwords will be compromised, how much confidential information will be exposed? How many times will a warrant be issued in error?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Nek minute, it's illegal not to have your ID card phone on you at all times.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    God damn, why is a legal firm paying journalists to write slop like this on their website? Half of it is a political rant with no relevance.

    The only relevant point is this: should police require an additional warrant before applying for a DEAO?

    Arguably no, not if they already have the device. The warrant is only really needed to gain access to the device and grant legal authority to search for it. If you have both of those already through lawful seizure after witnessing a crime take place the warrant doesn't provide you any additional powers.

    A DEAO still needs to be signed off on by an authorised officer of the judiciary, and the cop applying for it can be charged with perjury if they lie on the application. The evidence is also very likely to be thrown out.

    The point is NSW warrants aren't a meaningful check on power, and this loser Paul Gregoire is just jerking off by framing it as such.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    Australia is one of the few countries without a history of brutal authoritarian rule (at least for white people). It really shows in the callous disregard the government and general public have for safeguards on power.

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