I saw a positon labeled Junior Developer, looked inside, and it asked for five years of experience.

I'm starting to think my bachelor's degree isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

I figured it out a while back. It's a definitional mismatch. While you and I think about entry level as the level at which we enter a career, the companies think of entry level as the level at which somebody enters the company. They ditched any notion of social responsibility in the form of cultivating new workers long ago.

This is why with a marketing degree I work in a bank.

I heard a stat that 73% of entry level jobs have gone away. And it makes me so angry, it is hard to articulate all the ways this is terrible. Obviously, for the people entering the workforce. It is short sighted for a business to not have a hiring and development strategy that allows them to pick up fresh talent. And it creates a problem in 15 or 20 years when we don't have enough people with the right experience. shakes fist into air

There was a dev who found a job posting asking for like 10 years experience in a piece of software he had written that wasn't even 5 years old yet.

When you still need a job

10yr+ DevOps career (the entirety of it having been dedicated to creation and maintenance of NDA-wrapped systems that don't even exist anymore (so the "proof" became "poof!" thanks to legalese prohibiting me from having it as "live portfolio") because corporations don't GAF about how much of our own soul we put upon coding something as programmers), incomplete bachelor degree for reasons too long to get into detail, started coding during my late childhood, 2 yrs (and counting) of unemployment and, sincerely, utter disillusionment with the winds of all fields of human endeavors, especially the enshittification of tech... Even though I'm not a junior, sometimes I widened my search to include junior positions as well ("you shouldn't be too picky" as I heard a few times, as if job positions were the only ones granted the divine right to be "picky" about who they should hire), so I can quite relate...

It's been some time since I gave up doing pointless searching, and all of this makes me wonder if my next job will be "in-situ quality test inspector of six-feet-under diggings", "afterlife consultancy" or "personal secretary of Ms. Rosa Caveira", because I have no expectations (nor the will) of being "repositioned" within the "job market", especially because I don't want to be a ChatGPT/Claude/Gemini nanny, which seems to be the case for most, if not all, DevOps jobs nowadays.

At least Ms. Caveira doesn't require experience, the job requires no paperwork, it'd be instant start, and I feel like She'd the best employer ever (e.g. I wouldn't be a fungible number in Her spreadsheet).

!memes@lemmy.world

"Junior level position, 5+years experience required!"

"entry level" is referring to remuneration not expertise.