this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2023
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The #1 cause of deforestation is animal agriculture. Go Vegan.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mate me going vegan ain't going stop BP or Exxon. Eat them instead

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This comment did way less than going Vegan.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Oil companies have plenty of horrible environmental impacts, but direct deforestation isn't really one. If we look at Amazon deforestation for instance:

Extensive cattle ranching is the number one culprit of deforestation in virtually every Amazon country, and it accounts for 80% of current deforestation

https://wwf.panda.org/discover/knowledge_hub/where_we_work/amazon/amazon_threats/unsustainable_cattle_ranching/

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Memes with good messages are the best.

For anyone interested to learn more about soil I recommend the Documentary "Kiss The Ground"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I intend to make a soil science community, but I can't do it on mobile and on vacation

In the meantime/c/[email protected] will have to suffice

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's truly insane how unsustainable modern industrial agriculture is. I'm hoping to dedicate my career towards sustainable agriculture somehow. Soil health is planetary health.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Take a soil science or agronomy degree. There are tons of old pedologists retiring.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Ah, I've already finished my master's in engineering. I'm hoping to get into making tools for making regenerative agriculture, agroforestry, etc. less labor-intensive and thus more cost-competitive. Good suggestion for others only just starting their educations, though!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah well, everything is pretty much on fire at the same time, but the climate crisis does seem to burn the fastest.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean, it seems you're framing the issue in a disingenuous way, unless I'm missing something. Cutting carbon emissions is about mitigating the environmental and atmospheric effects of global warming, not soil health. I agree that both are important things to work on for future generations, but I think the global warming thing is the more acute issue, hence the focus. If this planet becomes uninhabitable in the next 300 years, then our soil issues are mute. Additionally, the atmospheric changes of global warming are important for biodiversity and soil health, but not necessarily the other way around.

Granted, these are not my areas of expertise, so it's very possible that I'm wrong. Feel free to correct me with available data.

Edit: grammar

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

95% of food production comes from soil, and areable soils are disappearing at an alarming rate. FAO in 2015 stated there are approximately 60 harvests left...

Soils contain a shitpile of carbon, and that's not including organic (peat) soils. Disturbance and increased air temps speed up this release.

I don't think I'm understating things

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Carbon reduction ouught to be about kicking corporation into reduction as consumers are a much lower percentage of the issue. And deforestation (now as compared to was) is as much a Palm Oil issue as anything, which is a food product issue. Then saving soil is more of a general agriculture issue combined with irrigation and it's salt salinity, plus runoff, and...

Yea this meme nails how I feel, I just wish I felt less disenfranchised about the knowledge I have about how the next generations are going to go to hell in a hand basket.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I'm with you on focusing on corporate and industrial emissions first, and account for something like 90% of the emissions, IIRC.

Deforestation has a lot of roots in ag (in South America), and mining as well. These industries also have soil disturbance associated with them.

Saving soil is more of a general agriculture issue

Not quite. Ag is certainly guilty of a lot, but so to is urban development, or any other human development

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