But everyone pays taxes, even the unemployed. Every purchase has taxes on it. For this proposal to work as he wants, the entire tax burden will have to be transferred to the income tax. Enjoy the tax hike and labor crisis.
There is no war but the Class War.
I agree. Working class produces and every other class lives off of them.
When we claw back power, and there are social programs to cover healthcare, college, day care, etc., it will be necessary to harshly punish Sociopathic Oligarchs for their ongoing crimes (they won't be able to stop, they are mentally ill, they can't help themselves), up to, and including full confiscation of their wealth, leaving them penniless, homeless, and naked.
They will not be eligible for those social programs. They can live on the streets, and eat pigeons.
Perfect example as to why wealthy people shouldn't exist. Why should this unelected idiot have this much social power to even propose this?
Yeah, billionaires should not exist
hell, I don't think people should have more than a few million at most. Just enough to perhaps buy ONE house and afford food. Billionaires have no place when there are people starving and barely managing to survive. They really are scum, aren't they :/
(gonna add me again, Admiral Patrick?)
The shopify CEO wants to strip voting rights from people that don't pay taxes. So, 18-20 something year olds that don't have income and get claimed as a dependent. SAH mom's that get claimed as a dependent.
Fuck Tobias Lütke with a barbed wire wrapped dildo. Germany, Canada, please come pick up your trash.
People who don't pay taxes? Why would a billionaire want to disenfranchise billionaires? 🤔
Stah moms pay taxes, we file jointly with our partners. It would be the young adult dependents and the rich people that live on loans instead of income, so they don't have to pay tax.
one that would strip voting rights from anyone who pays no income tax
So he's in favor of stripping the voting rights of billionaires?
i think thats his argument. make billionaires pay tax to compete for policies. basically calling bribes tax or real life p2w, which it is currently but legal.
My take is, sack all of these billionaires and idiots on an remote small little island and let them figure out how they wanna govern themselves.
Like atlas shrugged? i like it! If we use the Randian framing they'll probably eat it up!
"nooo dont leave whatever will we do without someone to boss us around noooo please dont isolate yourself on a remote island pleeeeeease"
and then just not let em back in if they try
The self-serving “anarcho-capitalist” whore that died dependent on Medicare and social security.
HEY! Don't do whores dirty like that.
Does one vote matter if you can buy thousands?
I'm reading this as taking power away from the ruling class, not giving it. Rich people don't live on income, they live on loans guaranteed against their companies and off shore wealth right? They purposely keep low to no income, so they don't have to pay income tax. This way, if they do that, it will take away their vote.
Tax wealth, not work.
I think he may be onto something.
Perhaps there's some way to tie the weight of your vote to the ratio of taxes paid divided by wealth?
So, if you have billions in assets+wages, but pay less taxes than a guy earning minimum wage, your vote would essentially be completely ignored.
I'd just cap the voting power bonus at ~1.5
If you pay taxes you should've higher voting power but not tremendously higher
Under that idea, what happens to the vote of people who make too little to pay taxes? What if they don't have taxes because they don't have a job? What if you don’t pay taxes because you're homeless and don't have an address?
Well clearly, for those people the only fair way to handle it is to default to a vote weight of 1.0
Tobias Lütke is a German born Canadian. Why is he commenting about US elections at all? He has never voted in the US.
Because he makes money from it, capitalism and fascism have no borders.
Edit: and I'm sure he's voted with his dollars.
Because he hates democracy everywhere, and thinks the US might be the next to fall, if it hasn't already.
Never having a history of voting in an election is insufficient to the determination of exclufing a voter for ineligibility.
??? The richest people wouldnt vote. They pay no income tax, famously.
I wonder if this is what he meant but somehow I doubt it
Yet another reason for me to dislike Shopify.
I already hated that all the small retailers I use have migrated to it and it pushes you to set up an account so that it can connect all my purchasing habits together from what should be independent retailers.
Universal suffrage was a mistake. Maybe a confederation of workers councils would be better.
The problem here is that we have confused "financial success" with "merit".
They are almost always mutually exclusive.
But it also revealed that America is grappling with a political economy debate, as a frozen housing market and an entrenched wealthy baby boomer demographic have many, not just Lütke, arguing that something big needs to change.
Ja, I agree! People like him need to vanish. That is to say, there must not be any billionairs. They only exist because they take away value from those that work to produce it. In other words, they steal from workers, both domestic and foreign.
By law or by guillotine - those bastards need to go.
Okay, but if you're going to do that, those who pay more in taxes as a ratio to their net wealth should have more votes.
Also fuck shopify.
A “good system” would never allow billionaires to exist, and would entail a solution for the ones that already do.
This leads to the old "lead based voting system".
Oh, you mean the citizen's veto?
Does anyone have tips for how to identify (and avoid) sites that use shopify?
that blood tank needs tyrant blood refilling
I would like to "vote" for a system where businesses pay a minimum of 35% tax, no exceptions or deductions.
To rob the poor of quality of life
Because they want to run the company towns of the 2000s.
He yearns for the urn.
Whatever. That guy is a never nude.
Most "nouveau rich" want to keep their wealth forever and will burn everything down to make it possible. The "I got mine!" is strong with this group. The "old money rich" will eventually extract that wealth from them over time because they are "players" and this is old hat to them.
Why is a big dick acting like a dick?
Is he trying to radicalize people? Damn, that's just comic book evil.
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