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Apple valued my traded in iPhone 12 Pro Max at £0, thanks to 1 crack on the lens. The merits of this aside, I obviously had no intention to accept this offer.

While scrolling the page my finger hit the Accept button, and that was that. No confirmation nothing.

I have spent ages talking to Apple support, who claim they can’t do anything and it’s “in the legal terms that once you accept, you accept”. While they’re legally in the right, I’m out a fair amount of money.

Has anyone faced this before? Is there ANY way to cancel the trade in at this point, or anyone to contact?

Frankly, the support experience has really soured me on Apple.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Oh dang that sucks sorry about that. I don’t think there’s anything you can do. Do your trade inside the store. Lens or anything cannot be broken.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yup not a lot you can do. You pressed accept.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Seems that way, and legally they’re right but it is just shitty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Just don't mail them the old one. If they don't recurve it after a few months the trade is cancelled last I recall. I reneger my last trade in box including a slip over paper pretty much saying you have X amount of time to mail this so it'll count towards your trade in.

I'm sure you could also tell apple to cancel that order and then just restart it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Accept that you messed up and let that be a valuable lesson for you

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wish I could - but - mis-tap is hardly a mess up! If I had actively accepted it and then regretted my stupidity it would indeed be a valuable lesson

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is though. Actively or not, you accepted. It’s a mistake 🤷🏻‍♂️ when you have hundreds of dollars on the line be careful with your fingers and pay attention, that’s the lesson

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I guess. Doesn’t seem there’s any resolution from Apple.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also, IANAL, but if you really didn’t receive anything I would mention that this can’t be considered a valid contract under English law due to lack of “consideration” (benefit for you). Maybe that might scare someone into getting something done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That’s a good point - might try that when I speak to them again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It's not a big deal at all, just keep your old phone and don't give it to Apple. They weren't going to give you anything for it so it makes no difference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

But is it worth something with a cracked lense?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That is rough, they clearly could cancel it, just the same way you cancel an order. Depending where you live there might be some laws that can help you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well if you traded it in for a new device wouldn’t they just return it if you canceled that order? Or would you get some kind of store credits?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

He will get nothing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

No idea why people are all on apples side here that’s completely ludicrous just escalate until you’re speaking with someone competent and demand it back I’m certain you’ll get your way eventually.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Just say you drink or stones and incapable of making a decision

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Apple is going to fix the lens for $10 and sell it for $899

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I can’t wait to ditch my iPhone. Such a crappy company and this “we’ll steal your phone through nefarious web design” seals it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Calling someone an android fanboy when Apple are accepting $0 trade ins lmaoooo

Why would anyone EVER accept a $0 trade in? It shouldn’t even be an option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Someone failed at reading comprehension - that's you.

I understand that it's an effort, but you could check out OP's post to understand what actually happened.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Get out of Steve Job’s hole. Can you provide any logical reason why someone would accept a $0 trade in?

I wouldn’t be surprised if OP could challenge this based on the fact that no consideration was given which means it’s not a valid contract.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Can't you read at all?

OP is complaining about ACCIDENTALLY hitting that button.

Let's try to explain how things work.

First, you may want to trade the device in to get a discount on a new unit. You declare the state in which the device is in, and Apple's site gives you a value.

Second, Apple inspects the device and either confirms everything or marks it down by citing a reason.

Third, in the case of a markdown, you have to either accept or refuse the terms. (Assuming that if you refuse, you can request to get your device back.)

OP accidentally hit Accept and there's no going back. Which led to this post.

Not sure why I ever bothered to type all of this because it's so obvious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Can you provide any logical reason why someone would accept a $0 trade in?

I would. Because dealing with receiving it back and then trying to sell it as a broken iPhone isn't worth my time. I'd rather they take it and refurbish or recycle it, even if I get $0.

I wouldn’t be surprised if OP could challenge this based on the fact that no consideration was given which means it’s not a valid contract.

Consideration is given... promise to refurbish or recycle.

Challenging this legally would be tough because you'd have to sue for damages, for which Apple said the worth of the device was $0 and the OP agreed to that. They'd have to persuade a court that it was an accident for which the blame is on Apple and that the value of the device is more than $0 (which BTW was established by a 3rd party).

I feel for the OP, but Apple makes the instructions for doing this very clear and inserting further protections in the process seems burdensome for those not acting so careless as the OP.

That said, having a 24 hour grace period for changing one's mind doesn't seem like this would be very burdensome for Apple, but that should be weighed against the frequency of this occurring.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It’s more of “if we don’t see the value in it, you might as well leave it with us because you ain’t going to get much for it anyways.”

They do have a great recycling program at least. But yeah at least provide some sort of discount or something. Or let me put it as a donation on my taxes lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It was designed to make it so you can't correct a accidental tap. You see it in live service games all the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is why I never deal with expensive purchases on my phone. Mouse and keyboard and a screen where I can read the whole page!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

In hindsight, I wish I had! Never had this happen to me on a laptop

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

IANAL but in their own summary of their trade-in terms and conditions they state

Apple or Vendor may refuse, cancel, or limit the quantity of any trade-in transaction for any reason.

so afaik, wouldn't/couldn't that be read as what's called rescission? especially in good-will on their part within minutes of the agreement being signed? there's no logic in any possible way one could try to scam them that I could think of by doing this with a £0 valuation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hadn’t heard that word before. From what they said, their systems don’t allow it to be cancelled.

Can’t possibly be a scam given it’s a 0 value, as you say

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

which I get, them probably being a low-wage customer service worker, but maybe forward you on to manager or legal or something that would deal with this with you lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I tried - maybe I had (more) bad luck and got the worst customer service rep of all time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

IANAL, but from a few grad courses in law, iirc to be valid the contract must be reasonably equitable. Also, IDK where you live but where I am, ALL contracts that aren’t immediately fulfilled may be cancelled within 3 days. Worth checking into this. Your experience has made short work of my exploration of the new Pro. I don’t want amy i-anything now. Gotta learn what else is out there. GL, don’t bend over!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The phone is still great, I have to admit with gritted teeth.

But, Apple is getting to the point where its products & services are case by case, not universally good.

My experience with trade-in has been horrible. A few product lines are subpar (like the AirPods in my opinion), but others like the iPhone or the watch are still amazing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I was excited to get the watch. It’s awesome for driving, no question!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know where you live but in Germany you can revoke your confirmation if you sent it in error. I am sure there are similar laws in your jurisdiction

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I’m in the UK, so maybe there is a similar law on the books from before Brexit. Definitely worth pushing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The magic word is “I want to make a complaint”.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Raise a complaint and speak to a manager. Them even proposing a 0$ trade in shouldn't be a thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Will do - hopefully it slightly works out