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[–] 67 points 2 years ago (20 children)

I hate everything about this: the lack of transparency, the lack of communication, the chaotic back and forth. We don’t know now if the company is now in a better position or worse.

I know it leaves me feeling pretty sick and untrusting about it considering the importance and potential disruptiveness (perhaps extreme) of AI in the coming years.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Given the rumors he was fired based on undisclosed usage of some foreign data scraping company's data, it ain't looking good.

    Now that there's big money involved, screw ethics. We don't care how the training data was acquired.

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  • Now that there's big money involved, screw ethics. We don't care how the training data was acquired.

    I dont care about ethics here, if the money would be excluded as well.

    IF they would live up to their goals they settled for its fine.

    But its similar to google, back in the days, with "dont be evil".

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Can I find out more about these rumors somewhere?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    I've tried to find it but I can't seem to find it. There's been a thread on Lemmy somewhere about it that linked to a thread on Blind where someone claiming to be working at OpenAI having heard that from the board.

    But, it's ultimately just rumors, we don't know for sure. But it was at least pretty plausible and what I would expect the board of a very successful AI company to fire the CEO for, since the company is obviously doing really well right now.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    I actually like the chaoticness, because I don't like having one small group of people as the self-appointed and de-facto gatekeepers of AI for everyone else. This makes it clear to everyone why it's important to control your own AI resources.

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  • [–] 53 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    On the one hand, the board was an insane cult of effective altruism / longtermism / LessWrong, so fuck them. But on the other hand, this was a worker revolt for the capitalists, which I guess shouldn’t be surprising since tech workers famously lack class consciousness.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    That's what happens when the wealth is shared with those who make it. Everyone becomes a capitalist.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    Actually that's just self interest. Both capitalism and socialism claim to benefit workers. But only socialism has remotely shown to do that to any extent. Capitalist hoarding and speculation is the primary driver of inflation and things like the inafordability of housing.

    If you labor for a living, you aren't a capitalist. You're labor.

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    [–] 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I guess the entire workforce calling the board incompetent twats and threatening to quit was actually effective.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I guess this will have to do as entertainment until GRRM finishes his damn book.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Any day now! I have a friend that got hyped up every time George published another chapter from WoW, but I just refuse to read any of them. I want a complete book. I’m not sure he’s got any idea of how to finish his own story.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I didn't know he wrote for World of Warcraft

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I know you’re joking, but it stands for Winds of Winter if anyone is confused.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    Man what a clusterfuck. Things still don't really add up based on public info. I'm sure this will be the end of any real attempts at safeguards, but with the board acting the way it did, I don't know that there would've been even without him returning. You know the board fucked up hard when some SV tech bro looks like the good guy.

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    What about his deal with Microsoft?

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    [–] 5 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    And the lord is back in his fiefdom

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    [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Fucking Kendall Roy on the OpenAi board or something

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I maintain that this had something to do with a disagreement over which commercial applications are permissible for GPT-4, and that Sam Altman somewhere along the line negotiated a deal that allowed some actor to participate in one of the "forbidden applications" by proxy via a seemingly unrelated agreement. I'm talking Financial Forecasting (High Frequency Trading), Military, and Policing/Surveillance. Now that Sam's back and unfettered, I'm guessing we are going to see some of those applications come out into the light.

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