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[–] [S] 92 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

If that sounds a lot like a cartel, well, you wouldn't be the first person to point that out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing_scandal

Something, something history rhymes and mind you that those found guilty got slaps on the wrist and then promoted within the industry.

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  • [–] 65 points 2 months ago (15 children)

    Imagine how much good will and long-term profit any given manufacturer could generate right now just by creating consumer-facing parts at a reasonable price and refusing to cater their supply lines to datacenters. The right move now could buy loyalty for decades. People remember.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago

    Imagine how much good will and long-term profit

    They'd generate loads of good will, which would be forgotten in an instant as soon as a something better or cheaper came along. Consumers are fickle.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    Yeah but they won't, because good will access loyalty isn't worth 10x profits right now, today.

    Some would probably even argue that not extracting maximum profits today would leave them at a disadvantage against their competitors who are investing huge profits back into the business.

    To be clear I'm not saying I agree with any of this, I'm just saying don't get your hopes up because at the end of the day they are all businesses.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    There is too much centralization in the chain. Decades ago there were lots of memory manufacturers. But as the markets matured, and the work became more sophisticated, and big swings happened in the markets, consolidation happened. And many manufacturers just went away.

    But yeah, you would think there would be room for that still. I still agree with you.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    A lot also don't, the low common denominator don't care about anything other then their consumer habits or if it affects them in the here and now.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Unfortunately there aren't a lot of companies manufacturing ram, and the handful that exists are all members of the cartel, and it takes decades to set up a new production. Also the cartel corporations are making much more selling to datacenters than they ever did selling to consumers.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Pretty sure thats actually illegal in the US because you are legally obligated to do what makes the board and investors the most money.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    The need to act in the best interest of the shareholders, if they are making less immediate profits to make more gains long term they can easily make that argument. Convincing the board not to replace you and hire someone that will ride the bubble til it pops is a different story.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (28 children)
  • [–] 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (17 children)

    From my understanding, Valve would need to be hundreds of times more wealthy to be able to even consider manufacturing their own DRAM.

    Edit: notably, this article seems to suggest that after significant government investmemt and with an already well-established knowledge and IP base, a fab costs around $15 billion dollars and optimisticly, a decade of construction. Given that Valve is starting from scratch, the price will be much higher. Chinese companies, backed by the Chinese government and using significant amounts of corporate espionage, have been trying to achive this for about 20 years, and are only just starting to catch up, nonetheless one (relatively) small software company.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Maybe Gabe could give up a few of his superyachts

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    [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Valve should start making ram 😁

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Big tech ran out of ideas and have now begun to legalize their monopolistic takeover at an expedited rate

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago*

    Just so people understand this story properly:

    Kotaku, a 'game journalism' website... is writing an Op-Ed, based on the actual original reporting of a Youtuber.

    Gaming Journalism, everyone!

    Why the fuck isn't Kotaku maybe the ones doing actual investigative journalism?

    Because they're all fucking hacks!

    They are a fucking tabloid and undisclosed advertisment machine.

    God fucking damnit.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    But wait, I thought capitalism was about solutions, more demand causes more supply. Grade 8 economics was fun.

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