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[–] 134 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Break the beef into smaller pieces first so the germs can't find it.

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  • [–] 100 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Oooooh who lives in tepid water floating in dirty sinks?

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  • [–] 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Abhorrently grey and uncertain it’s beef

    Edit: you kids weren’t ready, I forgot to ask, that’s on me.

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    When sick days stack up and you’re after C. Diff

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  • [–] 84 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    This guy is starting the next epidemic in his kitchen.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    But for real now, is desinfecting your home with bleach that often really healthy (or good for the environment)?

    I mean, you should probably not raw dog thaw that meat like a psychopath and obviously cleaning the kitchen, bathroom etc is important, but come on.

    They mention the toothbrush holder - this thing is gross, ok? I mean it is disgusting and I also try to wash and keep it as dry and clean as I can. But it's not because of germs, since I put the butt of my toothbrush there, not its freaking head that goes in my mouth, and I don't start my day by licking the bottom of that glass either.

    It's just funny to me to read this article when everyone around is saying how important germs are for our health and allergy protection and how we are supposed to let kids eat dirt basically but then they tell us to bleach the crap out of the sink drain because germs. Then you go read about the hygiene hypothesis in the author's next article.

    Also come on, who has time to take off the stove knobs every week and clean them thoroughly? Does the first bullet point suggest I replace a rag with a rag? Or did I misunderstand something?

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    [–] 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm just guessing here but I would think that cooking would kill off anything picked up from the thawing process.

    It's nasty, but not necessarily unsafe.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Not necessarily toxins (as in ones produced by bacterial/fungal processes) or toxic/bad-tasting chemicals left over from cleaning dishes.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sure, it might be safe to eat after it's been cooked, but who wants washed mince meat?

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    as long as you cook it thoroughly it's not terrible but not great. though keeping it in the wrapper would be better (that's what we do at the restaurant). even a ziploc bag.

    i mean assuming the water is clean and the sink is relatively routinely cleaned.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This is how our ancestor did it

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    and they lives till their mid 30s.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    No they didn't. Infants and children were dying left and right but if you survived to adulthood you'd most likely die in your 50's-60's.

    High infant mortality rate is why the average human life expectancy was around 30.

    Honestly this is why I hate averages because they can be easily misleading without the original source information to put it into perspective.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago

    That's another 2 violations, Harry.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

    Granted it's usually done in something substantially cleaner, but this is pretty much how professional kitchens thaw frozen meat.

    Edit: here's my faq so people can stop assuming things about this method of thawing meat.

    • this is safe to do. Meat is cooked at temperatures that kill all potential bacteria and parasites, even for steaks cooked medium rare.
    • this is generally done with the meat still in the packaging, unless there's a dedicated place to thaw meat. The thawing container is washed before and after each use.
    • it's always done with cold, running water to prevent the meat from thawing unevenly or unsafely.
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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    In my experience, we left it in the packaging, and also the taps continued running as that helped speed it along. Strictly in cold water.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    That sound marginally better but honestly I've never experienced a kitchen where it would be okay to thaw meat outside the fridge. This might be a Danish thing, but if the health inspector came by and saw that, the restaurant would probably get fined.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Having worked in several professional kitchens, I have to debunk this. You don't throw unpacked, raw meat into a zink (with or without water) to thaw it. You leave it in the fridge, preferably in a closed container until it's thawed. leaving it out in room temperature makes it a feast for bacteria.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    "Massively unsafe"? only if he wants to eat it afterwards...

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It will be disgusting but if you thoroughly cook it it should be safe.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Cooking kills most bacteria - but not all, that's how food poisoning still happens in cooked food (cross contamination too, but that's a separate issue). You should never defrost meat at room temp, best way is in the fridge since it still keeps it at a temp that's safe for a few days after being fully defrosted but it takes a day or two to fully defrost. To do it faster you can submerge it in cold water if you replace the water every couple of hours (or more often, depending on your room temp) until you cook it but that's a last resort if you just need it defrosted in the same day

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The fastest way, like 15 mins is to take the sealed package of frozen meat and put it in a container with hot but not boiling water. The meat will act like an ice cube, cooling down the water and other than the very center of the meat it will be ready to cook right away. This is really only good for ground meats because you can fry, flip, and scrape off the frozen center bit while browning the rest of the meat. Still better than microwave defrosting.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's brilliant. Once it thaws, just start a campfire under the sink and you can cook it right there. It's metal, pans are metal, quid pro quo same thing.

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago

    His training his stomach like an Indian.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    keep going, probably fine

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Why not pee on it? It's warmer so it will work faster and I it is probably cleaner.

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    [+] 7 points 2 years ago
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