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submitted 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) by LovableSidekick@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

This is hypothetical - the glasses don't fact-check what people say, they somehow detect willful deception, like people expect polygraphs to do, but with high accuracy. Would people welcome these, fear them, object on privacy grounds? I think it would be very contentious. Would people feel different if they only fed the information to the wearer but didn't record or send it anywhere? What exactly would the issues be?

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Politics would make them illegal so fast, your head would spin.

[-] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

object on privacy grounds

That would be the reasonable thing to do.

[-] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I read a book around 10 years ago that convinced me that lying is almost never justifiable even when it comes to white lies and I've pretty much not ever lied since. And I'm not talking about radical honesty - not lying means not saying things that you know to be untrue, not that I always tell everything that's on my mind.

Few observations that have came from this experiment:

  • Most people lie constantly in situations that they wouldn't need to and they don't even realize it.
  • The cartoon examples people think of about situations where you're forced to tell an uncomfortable truth almost never happen.
  • People can't wait to brag about how good of an liar they are when the lie has been directed at a 3rd person - not realizing that gets them immediately labled as untrustworhy in my eyes.
  • Not lying to others also makes it more difficult to lie to yourself and forces you to face your bullshit
  • Most people absolutely hate for anyone to even suggest taking lying away from their toolkit (see this thread)
[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I read a book

share?

I strive for honestly in almost all things. I have a few relationships where honesty doesn't really work unless I want them to become very stressed out - innocuous inquiries like 'how are things?' <surveys the hellscape of our national politics/ society / ai etc.> they're dealing with dementia already, I can't be honest in these kinds of interactions.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I agree with these points, but you should talk to the other person here who said without lies civilization would collapse in a couple minutes. Quite the spectrum of beliefs.

[-] Libb@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago
  • Without lies any civilization would collapse in a matter of minutes: faced with what all of us really think, most people would kill one another (or commit suicide) even faster than that, as all the wishful-thinking and illusions so many of us rely upon would instantly vanish.
  • People would try to get rid of that tech (and in the process some would decide to do some nasty things to their creators/advocates) trying to save themselves from that very short lived hell this tech created. And they would fail.
[-] Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works 21 points 12 hours ago

Politicians would very quickly ban the thing "for our own security"

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

But we already know politicians are lying and they still win elections,

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Can definitely see that happening.

[-] evilcultist@sh.itjust.works 15 points 12 hours ago

Can’t speak for anyone else, but every other word out of my mouth in the presence of these glasses would be an intentional lie.

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I would start being overly honest and forthcoming about things I don't currently bring up because doing so isn't polite. Wouldn't want to lie by omission!

[-] Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Anarchy in the streets immediately. Imagine how many romantic, professional and social relationships would be tested right away.

[-] Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

That's what I was thinking with the social aspect.

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

I am trying to tag along with the thought experiment, but I can only imagine it being yet another tech bro scam. Elon Musk will sell Grok lie detector glasses that just fucking guesses, but the press will just keep copy-pasting deceitful press releases until half the people I meet believe the glasses do detect lies.

Many will then start using them in private resulting in both extreme frustration when they hallucinate lies, and unprecedented fashtech surveillance.

[-] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

People would very, very quickly start to rationalize why the detection couldn't possibly be right. Look at how many scientifically or historically proven things people already are willing to disregard because it conflicts with their worldview or beliefs!

So they detect "willful" deception? People would just fall back on the "...well, I didn't know" / "didn't think XYZ counted" / "didn't consider ABC" as their excuses. Or if it can be shown that 0.00-near-infinite-zeros-01% of the population has some quirk which makes them detect wrongly, suddenly there'd be most of the population claiming that.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

To sum that up, are you saying people would find reasons to disbelieve that their heroes and icons are lying? I was thinking more along the lines of personal contact - everyday conversations, business deals, etc.

[-] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Yep. Their heroes, icons, leaders, family... and themselves.

Hell, they'd disbelieve if the glasses detected someone was telling the truth, but they didn't want to believe that!

[-] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 4 points 11 hours ago

Might be a problem with narcissists who believe their own lies?

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

True, if it's designed to detect deceit it won't detect self-delusion.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 9 hours ago
[-] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

It’s devastating to my case!

[-] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

It would destroy civilization instantly, since it relies on lies all the way down.

[-] Hackworth@piefed.ca 2 points 12 hours ago

If I look in a mirror, will they detect when I'm lying to myself? Take my money.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Only if you're doing it on purpose.

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