Technology

[–] ulkesh@piefed.social 42 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Is there any actual purpose, for the consumer, that this serves? These governments are full of literal idiots.

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[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 78 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Advertisers REALLY want to know what age groups are into what.

Oh, and uploading your ID or whatever to do this guarantees they know who posted those pesky comments that do not align with the party values.

"We're protecting the children" per usual

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This isn't about advertisers although they may be a bit player, this is about silicon valley, the technofascists, the national security dickheads, databrokers, and the like.

This is so much worse than advertising. This is connected to those data centers, brah.

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[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

The technofacists are the advertisers man. All that data is what fuels ads, surveillance and all the rest. They built the platforms and the intelligence capabilities. Whoever has the most data drives the most effective ads, surveillance pricing, targeted promotions, etc.

If they didn't start off early on using the data for advertisement, they wouldn't have continued their journey to use the same data for big brother tech. There's a ton of extra steps and things along the way, but at some point once a company starts making billions of dollars they all get into politics and lobbying (we really need to call lobbying political bribes.) They're just taking things a few more steps further nowadays. They are ALL complicit with what is going on.

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

Advertisers are their excuse, they are a user, not the primary one. This is about complete collection of data, fed into half baked ai threat detection, with firms like palantir making secret social scores to be secretly used against us in everything from business to government.

This is being spearheaded by the technofascists and others for that purpose, not advertising although they are in on it I'm sure.

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[–] KingKong33@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Neither of those are the consumer.

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[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh, serving you more relevant ads based on who you are so you purchase products isn't about you? :P

Okay, here's a stupid realistic answer: It might help stop kids from making purchases on adults phones without the actual adult.

But that's not a good answer even if it may be a side effect, because they aren't doing it to help us, they're doing it to own us. We rent our time here and have to work for it. They were born to never have to do anything but take our money, time, lifeblood, sanity, leisure, resources and potential. Simple really.

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Oh they aren't idiots, they know exactly what they are doing, the bidding of some factions that likely supplied them with model legislation through ALEC for this.

They want to connect every person to every account, and record everything everyone does or says or looks at, to run through their half baked ai threat detection models and create secret social scores to be used secretly against us from business to government, to the prices we are charged for items, to that job, that loan, and the like.

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[–] ulkesh@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

One can be an idiot and still think they know they're doing.

However, you're likely right. They're less idiotic and more malicious and nefarious. We're back in the mode of "let's use every possible method to try to control people." What these assholes don't realize is that eventually the people will rise up again and simply murder them. The rich have this coming as well. It's only a matter of time and how much the masses are willing to put up with before the dam blows.

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

You are right as well, they are idiots, in multiple ways. Their actions may be based on a nihlism where they believe in nothing other than self interest, cynical to the core. But many believe a lot more of their own bullshit than someone like me previously thought.

Covid really drove that point home. They are dumber than we give many of them credit for. Look at MTG, she actually believed the bs. To her credit, she rejected it when she learned. But she didn't already know? We all knew. WTF. The alternative realities we are living under is just incredible.

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[–] BranBucket@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Some people who are utterly tech ignorant and unwilling to actively parent their children might feel better about handing their kid a device so they don't have to deal with them.

However, this is primarily the end game of both targeted advertising and those who want wholesale surveillance of the population (who are often the same people). Tying the whole of your online presence to your unique offline identity.

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[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Good luck with that

[–] 7112@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

Enjoy your cake day!

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[–] ItsNotImportant24@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

I will!

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (1 child)

The Epstein class wants to know who the minors are online.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

They can just go to Mark Zuckerberg's unlicensed digital daycares (Meta Horizon Worlds) or go to Roblox.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 16 points 3 months ago

I wonder how this will impact Aurora store...?

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

im gonna miss doom scrolling, but id rather throw my phone in a river.

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Small government

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (5 children)

We should all simultaneously delete their apps off of our phones and cut those data streams. Uninstall Day.

Every year I go through my apps on a big spreadsheet and look at licenses, perceived sketchiness, alternatives, breaches, etc. This has helped me move further and further from the worst offenders and this year I may actually have more FOSS than proprietary apps. I'm gonna share this year's sheet somewhere on Lemmy when it's done.

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[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The only play store (google) apps i have on my phone are the play store itself, a banking app, an investment app, and FL Mobile. All nicely sandboxed in their own user profile on grapheneOS.

My main profile has 99 FOSS or not installed via play store apps.

Fuck google. Fuck the surveillance state. Fuck these politicians in glass houses.

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[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

May I ask what you use for a file browser? I really, REALLY,like X-plore and have communicated with the developer on a few occasions and bought and rebought whatever licenses or bonus features he offers. I haven't found anything that works as well on either the FOSS or proprietary side. It does SMB, FTB, local files, Nextcloud and WebDav, etc. You can set up automated tasks to clone folders to a destination or move files (like photos) on a schedule. It does zip and archive files and has 2 panes making it easy to copy things around.

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https://xdaforums.com/t/mixplorer-q-a-and-faq-user-manual.3308582/

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

Sounds similar to MiXplorer.

That's what I've been using for a decade.

It has all the things. It is, however, proprietary. But a long track record of trust.

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[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago

Thanks, this looks like a good backup for me when I finally cut the Google cord completely. Unlike my preferred solution, they offer downloads outside of the play ecosystem and that means something, especially in today's times. I miss the old days when you sent a dev $10 and got a code you plugged into the app itself and would work on that build for the rest of time.