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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Jeez, they didn’t even try.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Sorry, so the privacy concerns turned out to be WORSE than YouTubers had mentioned.

Jfc wow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

They beat Google’s record of killing a product!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Jeez, what a week of headlines. I swear it started as Nothing will unveil iMessage for Android. Then shifted to Apple with adopt RCS. The Nothings BlueMessage getting taken down from the play store...to today it is getting killed entirely. This has got to be the shortest lifespan of a product for Android from initial public announcement to death blow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Of course it did. Some random 3rd-party proxying plaintext copies of all users messages was never going to result in success.

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that Apple’s 180 on adopting RCS is because they realised people will risk stupid things in an effort to interop with iMessage, which tarnishes the brand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This was always a bad idea for any user to actually use. Always sounded like it was prone to be opening up your wallet so a third party could look inside to see what you have.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Who didn't see this coming?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Nothing didn’t do the development (Sunburst did), the problem is they didn’t do any due diligence before putting their name on it.

I just have to say this is a good reason Google is whining about iMessage.

  1. ⁠They can’t access any of the iMessage data
  2. ⁠A majority of their users are primarily using free phones from C level manufacturers which cause security and crap experiences
  3. ⁠Wireless carriers shoulder the burden of support for those devices and could care less
  4. ⁠Google has tried and failed multiple times to offer a messaging app or service that sticks around. They can’t stay committed to one messaging app or service because their people don’t care. All they care about is a win when annual reviews come around.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Grand opening. Grand closing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This has to be have been a marketing exercise. No lawyers on payroll looked into this? Seems pretty unbelievable when user privacy has pretty consistently been in the news.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Android lol amirite

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I like nothing a lot. But it seems that their desire to get publicity from this and prove a point really created a mess.

Suggest that they wait until Apple supports the encrypted rcs standard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Down the drain

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Who the heck are Nothing and Sunbird?…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is Beeper just as bad? If so why isn't it getting slammed like Nothing has? Beeper app has been around a lot longer...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I imagine because it isn't Beeper's primary purpose and isn't something that's pushed as the whole reason to get it.

I've just found iMessage to be pointless on it anyway. Outside of "look I can send an iMessage from an Android phone" it's like okay it's linked to an email instead of a phone number and no one uses texting anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Why is every company a wannbe apple? Nothing was looking promising in carving their niche audience but alas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I wonder what the chances are to get a real cheap Nothing iPhone 2 in a few months lol?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

What does this have to do with iMessage?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Nobody saw that coming…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

*User privacy and security

I forgot that part in the title and idk how to edit it😬

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

THANKS MARQUES!!

/s

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I just don’t get the fascination from android users wanting iMessage. Use whatsapp or signal etc to get through to your apple friends or sms failing that. If you really want that blue bubble just save up for an iPhone.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Goes to show, say what you will about Apple keeping a lock on iMessage. However at lease iMessage hasn’t been blatantly exposed to the internet by careless actions from Apple.

iCloud/AppleId has never been “hacked”. Only users with shitty passwords that someone guessed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also any time you hear about malware in an App Store, it’s on Android, and not the Apple App Store. I, for one, don’t look forward to the time when they’re forced to open up that “walled garden”.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Guess the CEO got the hint after a bunch of tech tubers pointed out that it’s a security nightmare (login into a remote Mac Mini that now owns the keys to your Apple Account). Could also be that the unexpected RCS move made it redundant so they got the security concerns and used it as an excuse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

He knew lmao. This is a PR move to make big splash in the news, nothing (ayyy) more than that. Perfectly apt knowing that he's used to be from OnePlus

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Essentially what happened here is there was no actual product. They had inside info that Apple was making this move and figured they would get some free PR from it. And idiot Youtubers were dumb enough to give it to them.

Not to mention the way they wanted to accomplish this killed privacy. Insanely invasive. Nobody should trust Nothing after this, if somehow you still did. And stop listening to any Youtubers who happily carried their water this week.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Profoundly is right. it's not that it had weak encryption or some niche exploit. It sent all your data, every last bit of it over unencrypted http. Plain text data transfer. It's nuts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

ESL learners will have a hard time with this one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

That was a hard headline to read without context of what “Nothing” is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It’s an iPhone for tech-fixated teenagers who think it’s cool to hate iPhones

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I still have no idea after reading the article what a messaging/chat app on the android ecosystem has anything to do with iMessage.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I have to share this every time I see Nothing Phone posted. Reddit’s Spez is the biggest investor. Do you trust him with your cell phone? He’s second to only Google Ventures. I’m not interested in giving that man any more money than the ad revenue I generate on Reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Thread title sounds like gibberish.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (5 children)

we all knew it wasn't staying for long

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

My hindsight bias was like someone would have developed something like this earlier and failed so this new initiative may have the same fate…and it did.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And nothing just lost all brand respect from me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

And nothing was lost (sorry I had to 🫠)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nothing just did this to look like they were responsible for Apple changing their stance on RCS. They moved according to the deadline the Digital Markets Act imposed.

End of the day be it bad or good publicity they got what they wanted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

If that’s what they were going for than their marketing should’ve been “but we wouldn’t have to do this if you’d just support RCS…”

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I’m sorry but…LMAO! 😂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

All of that for nothing lmao.

This is just embarrassing.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Jesus did that even last a day?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

"Nothing" to see here! Move along!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

All press is good press? 🙃

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