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[-] Naich@piefed.world 125 points 2 months ago

It'll mean something when they actually do something about it. Everyone grumbles about shit.

[-] gnutrino@programming.dev 72 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Honestly grumbling about Putin himself is a change in Russia. They've traditionally applied good tsar, bad boyars to him.

[-] Gork@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 months ago

The modern form of this is, "SHOIGUUUU! GERASIMOV!!!!"

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[-] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They aren't upset that he started a war, just that he hasn't been very good at it.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

I’ve been hearing about how Russia is about to collapse economically, lose the war, and watch Putin die from cancer for… years now. It’s just clickbait at this point.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Most people want instant gratification and the media knows it. The fact is that most institutional collapse don't happen overnight, but a slow burn one. Russia is indeed losing economically from the war, but it will be like with USSR when the war in Afghanistan slowly drained Soviet coffers. Although in my opinion, the consequences could worse than the aftermath of USSR's collapse. China will vassalise Russia, which is contrary to the aim of Putin in making Russia an independent major power.

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[-] Photonic@lemmy.world 94 points 2 months ago

Start illegal war with neighbouring country and killing innocent civilians: I sleep.

Economy down the drain: real shit.

[-] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 78 points 2 months ago

That's how most of the wars are lost. Most people will justify the worst crimes their countries do as long as they feel they are personally benefiting from it.

[-] mitram@sopuli.xyz 44 points 2 months ago

In the end, what most people seem to care about is their own material conditions

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[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Real missed opportunity to have forgone "neigbouring" and let readers decide for themselves if you were referring to putin in Ukraine or Trump in Iraq.

[-] mattyroses@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

Do you mean Trump in Iran, or Bush in Iraq?

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Give it a year

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[-] msage@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

I love how this applies to every country that invaded.

[-] mattyroses@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

You might want to examine a graph of George W Bush's approval ratings by year sometime

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[-] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 49 points 2 months ago

Too bad that "mood" really doesn't seem to be relevant in totalitarian dictatorships.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If the mood is bad enough, it can result in death of the dictator.
And Putin has been hiding a lot in his bunker lately.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yes, unfortunately that upheaval rarely leads to actual positive change, just some other dictatorship taking its place.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

True, but sometimes it works out OK, as it did in Romania.

[-] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

For context for anyone who sees this and doesn't know, that was a revolution and not an assassination

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You would think, but the 2 were actually not that tightly connected.
While the people protested, Nicolae Ceaușescu was judged by a military tribunal by people high up who had power in the old system, led by a general. Ceaușescu was allowed no defense. And he was executed immediately after together with his wife.

It was very much an assassination. An assassination by his own, who used to follow his orders, and who were guilty themselves.

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[-] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 5 points 2 months ago

Nicolae Causescu would disagree if he could.

[-] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 43 points 2 months ago

Ah come on, the first 1550 days of a 3 days special military operation are always the hardest!!!11

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

What's funny is that Russian trolls are gradually having a harder time trying to spin the increasingly losing war in Ukraine. They are running out of creative heads to write scripts to read from!

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[-] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago

If there’s a country Thats more servile to their criminal president than America it’s gotta be Russia. This is like the articles that talk about trumps base turning on him. No they’re not

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

This is like the articles that talk about trumps base turning on him. No they’re not

We get the "Putin about to be toppled from within" article every couple of months going back 20 years. It's just a thing Western Media likes to print.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago

I mean, if it drops from 80 to 75% approval it is "turning on him". Also, meaningless.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 2 months ago

The vast majority of MAGAs would support Trump all the way to nuclear war, not because they actually support a nuclear exchange but because they're so brainwashed that they haven't thought about it.

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[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 20 points 2 months ago

They're not unhappy that he went to war with Ukraine, they're unhappy with the results they're getting.

[-] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

No, they are also unhappy that he went to war. But, the attitude is that they can't control it so they don't think about it. Now, that they can't use their phones and there are burning buildings in Moscow it is harder to ignore it.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 19 points 2 months ago

Is there a polymarket bet on who kicks the bucket first, Trump or Putin? Hard to say

[-] optimisticturtle@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Those hamberders and old age will catch up to Trump any second now. He's already had a mini-stroke on national TV. Putin is 7 years younger and is health conscious to the point it was memed on, But unlike Trump, Putin seems to know he's in over his head and is looking to contain fallout from this invasion. Dr. William Spaniel thinks 'Putin is done' talk is overblown though acknowledges things don't look great at all for Putin in Ukraine or domestically.

[-] dan1101@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Such a ridiculous situation that 2 old bitter people are responsible for so much trouble in the world.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

putin has enoug plastic surgery and preservatives, like the permafrost. so trump is the likely one to go.

trumps children seem to be circling him like a vulture.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

I have been reading this article for twenty years

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[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Just watch the Russian victory day military parade from earlier this month to see how “great” things are going for Putin and Russia.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 4 points 2 months ago

Damn I didn't see it before. It looks sad and cringey AF. What a joke of a country

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

The only fucking thing that is disturbingly functional is the rat bastard's propaganda machine.

[-] chilldrivenspade@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

oh the russians are in a MOOD. you tell him, girl!

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

From reading ISW, my impression is that Putin is a moderate in Russian politics.

Yes, many hate the war and his dictatorship. But there are also some in Russia (including potential successors) that are more militant than Putin, and think he held back too much, that he’s not nationalist enough.

He keeps these people in line.

…And it makes me afraid of who might take his place.

[-] lb_o@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Whoever takes his place will not have such a strong grip on everyone, so there will be a massive internal fight for power.

This is what all those Freedom of Russia legions are preparing for.

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

the ones who arnt defenestrated that is.

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