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How about substituting fruit with a cigarette?

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago

I think that's called a Continental Breakfast.

[-] TobJEnd@feddit.org 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Don't mind if I do

Key and Peele - continental breakfast

[-] baller_w@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

Based on my fruit and coffintake, I’m living forever. Ignore the alcohol.

[-] modus@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

I don't know if that's a typo or not. But I like it.

[-] 4grams@awful.systems 53 points 2 days ago

It’s good, it’s bad, it’s good, it’s bad, it’s…

Fuck it, life is better with coffee, and fruit.

[-] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 days ago

Nothing is 100% good or 100% bad. Even oxygen has problems that are caused in the body.

Coffee, like many things, can cause some health issues, but also some health benefits.

The problem is that the headlines only talk about this specific effect studied. When you get down the details, it's a lot less clear cut then "drink coffee = live longer" or "drink coffee = die younger"

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

This is why I hate science reporting in the media.

[-] demonsword@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

life is better with coffee

enjoy while you can, because climate change is ruining this too

[-] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

it blows my mind how many people don't eat any fruit or veg at all.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Veg, yes, but what does fruit really give you except fiber and glucose?

[-] Vandalismo@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago

Fiber is already more than enough reason to eat fruit, why are you searching for more?

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago

Fiber isn't something the body can break down, so what are you getting from it?

[-] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago
  • antioxidants
  • vitamins
  • minerals
  • enzymes
[-] DisasterTransport@startrek.website 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Alright but apart from the sugar and the fiber and the antioxidants and the vitamins and the minerals and the enzymes, what has fruit ever done for us?

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago
[-] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago
  • sexual aid
  • booze
  • theatre criticism
[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

More than what's in meat and vegetables? 🤔

It's there any fruit with more vitamins and such things than you can find in a corresponding vegetable or meat?

[-] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Complex answers there due to bioavailability, combinations, and palatability. Cow liver has lots of vitamin A but it is liver. Carrots have a lot of A if you eat good fats with them. Sea Buckthorn has more than you need but you also get v.C and lots of other nutrients and it's a candy.

Also as primates we are built for fruit.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Complex indeed.

Could you explain a bit more about what being "built for fruit" means? Built more for fruit than other things or just built to "handle" it?

[-] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Well it’s just a major part of many primate species’ diets, including hominids. Your mileage may vary depending on gut flora etc but humans eat a lot of fruits in general.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

Just because we do as humans doesn't mean it's the most nutritious. Look at the diet of koalas for example.

[-] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

"Nutrition" comes in many forms; I am fine with high density antioxidants and vitamins (more dense in some fruits than most if not all veg and meat) that are candy.

You have a strange opposition to fruit. Go prove that people can have a healthy diet without fruit and come back with the evidence.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You have a strange opposition to fruit. Go prove that people can have a healthy diet without fruit and come back with the evidence.

LCHF. My mother's been on it for over a decade, never felt better, she says. Lots of ailments she had went away as well.

I'm not opposed to fruit, there's stuff in fruit we need. I'm just saying they're probably not the best source of those things because it comes with the cost of extra stuff we don't need, like sugars and fiber.

You can probably get more of those antioxidants and vitamins in berries rather than fruit, going by the colloquial definition of "fruit".

I'm also not in LCHF, but I never eat fruit and I'm healthy af. Only on special occasions, like maybe a melon, or a mango or something. Never regularly.

I have a slight iron deficiency but that's from birth and fruit won't help me there, I imagine.

[-] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

Not including berries in "fruit" is weird AF.

Saying we don't need fibre is just deeply misinformed.

Anecdotal evidence, universalized, is often just rationalization. I believe you about your experience. I don’t think you can generalize accurately withit.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Not including berries in "fruit" is weird AF.

I said in the traditional definition. Fruit includes berries as well in the scientific definition, yes.

Was everyone using the scientific definition all along? Kind of unusual but I'll take it.

Anecdotal evidence

Excuse me but it doesn't matter in this case based on what you asked me.

You asked, that I prove that people can have a healthy diet without fruit, which would imply that your hypothesis is that you can't. So I give you two examples that disprove the hypothesis, and you reject them? That's not the scientific method, sir.

All that aside, I'm glad you believe me, because I have no reason to lie of course.

Vegetables are essential, and I eat those. Had I not eaten them, I think we wouldn't be having this discussion. 😅 I'd be eating a lot of supplements or be dead or dying.

[-] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 days ago

10 bucks says the studies were paid for by coffee and fruit industries.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Yeah I came here to say 'study sponsored by Starbucks'

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[-] Chaotic_Altruist@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They were funded by one and found success in another.

They would have made sense if one worked and they were funded by the same industry

Would have made sense if they simply found success in their results and published them

They said that it works when combining coffee and fruit. Which one paid for it? Both would have told the other industry to pay for the study. It's definitely only coffee or "fruit".

One was actually meaningful. Guessing fruit was actually beneficial and coffee paid the bill but it's definitely a red flag to include both in the finding. Either coffee is good and fruit is meaningless, or the other way around.

Tbh, "fruit" is such a large category that there's no way they studied every fruit. They "studied coffee" and added "fruit" so they could post a benefit. I love coffee but this study is bullshit.

[-] Astronut@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago

I drink coffee and eat fruit every morning. I’ll let yall know if I die early on account of it!

[-] nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 days ago
[-] Astronut@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Must be the coffee and fruit shutting my brain down already. I didn’t even catch that. Now I gotta live longer accidentally doing the right thing!

[-] baronvonj@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago
[-] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

The funny thing is that in French, those 2 words are spelled and said exactly the same way.

[-] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

gotta add 2 shots of whiskey and 3 cigs to complete that breakfast.

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Aah fruit. My favourite fruit.

[-] garretble@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Too bad coffee tastes like trash to this guy.

Guess I'll die.

I do often eat some fruit, though.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I'd rather take years off my life than having to suffer every day by drinking coffee.

[-] Gonzako@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yep, you'll die if you're not addicted to caffeine

[-] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

You could probably sub in chocolate for a similar benefit.

[-] xep@discuss.online 9 points 2 days ago

Can anyone find the study?

[-] ragica@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago

It seems this story is based on an unpublished paper abstract presented at European Congress on Obesity 2026 titled "Higher Dietary Polyphenol Intake Is Associated with a Lower Risk of Short Telomeres: Evidence from the SUN Cohort Study".

You can see it in the conference program.

https://eco2026.org/assets/docs/programme-book.pdf

And here is another reference.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-a-european-congress-on-obesity-unpublished-conference-abstract-on-association-between-higher-dietary-polyphenol-intake-and-lower-risk-of-short-telomeres/

[-] FoxyFerengi@startrek.website 17 points 2 days ago

As far as I can tell it's not yet published. Why on earth would this be reported if it hasn't made it through the publishing process? Lol

Here is a reaction to the findings that were presented at the conference mentioned in the op article.

[-] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

because it makes for good click bait

[-] dipcart@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

What about a strawberry flavored monster??? Is that the same or...?

[-] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

What about 2-3 STOK Cappuccino 48oz bottles a day, and a Bang to help me calm down after?

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