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[–] 46 points 4 months ago (7 children)

premium experience

I don't think I've ever had coffee from Starbucks that didn't taste cheaper than the grocery store coffee I buy for home. It has always tasted burned and too heavy for a light roast. Genuinely the shittiest coffee I could get outside of a 7-11 at a cafe that seems engineered to make me not treat it like a cafe.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    yeah it tastes like fuckin charcoal, idk if they just roast it way darker than it says or if it's actually burnt somehow

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yes they literally just burn the beans to absolute shit to "standardize the consistency" across all locations and over time.

    Also, I presume, to aid in upselling people on syrup and heavy cream filled versions that hide the taste of their terrible, terrible coffee.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago

    Yeah this isn’t, $9 a cup for a rare single origin grown on some remote island and brewed using a fussy, labor intensive process. This is $9 for Dunkin Donuts with a bougie veneer.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Got coffee at a random gas station a year ago for two or three dollars and I was shocked at how good it was. Pretty sure it was Rwandan. I only buy coffee bean(i)s, grind them, and use a bialetti at home. Fancy cafés rarely impress me but this random gas station blew every starbucks I’ve ever been to completely out of the water.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    These days Starbucks has a lot of different drinks and even regional variation, so it’s not that true anymore that they only sell this one kind of dark roast. But it’s still very overpriced

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  • [–] 38 points 4 months ago

    one year later

    "it's not an $11 dollar coffee, it's a $10 coffee!"

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  • [–] 36 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    npc It's not over-priced. It's a premium experience!

    doggirl-hi Does that mean that it will be cheaper if you just go through the drive-through?

    npc

    npc-upset

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  • [–] 32 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    The drive-through is the ultimate luxury experience if you have car-brain.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Drive thru coffee shops should be illegal.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    I agree with the spirit of what you're saying but when I've got to be on the job for 6am i already want to die don't make me have to get out for my bean juice

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    Ideally, we should be pushing for a world without personal cars so you can just grab a coffee on foot after you get off the bus/train but I know the current reality is very far off from that

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    There used to be entire cars in the train dedicated to providing you with beverages and food on the train yells-at-cloud

    But I personally remember they used to have drink carts and functioning vending machines

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    In the ideal world I might still need to drive my tools around to different sites that aren't connected to transit. I've always wanted to transit to work but not having a consistent destination makes it far more stressful and cumbersome

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Idk how much space and weight your tools take up but those stacked containers that go on a hand cart are pretty nice for transit. That said, vehicles for work wouldn't need to be banned if they're actually functional and necessary for the job. But I want every motherfucker driving a lifted truck with an empty bed to cry as it gets dismantled and scrapped in front of them.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    There's one near me that actually lets you walk up and order. I've found it so much quicker doing it that way than waiting in line. Plus I like to stretch my legs a little. Then again I will also wake up and happily walk a mile.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    When I worked at a Starbucks drive thru, we adamantly wouldn't serve any walk up customers. Saddest one was a big rig trucker trying to get a hot cup of joe at 6am and he couldn't fit the truck in the drive thru and the lobby didn't open until 7. I think I gave him a cup of coffee anyway, but my manager insisted we couldn't help him

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I would like to order one (1) “the experience of living my life without the ecological sword of Damocles threatening the biosphere and my future” please.

    If capitalism can sell me that I will cease advocating for its abolition.

    Until then they can all fuck off, their “experiences” can suck my toes. What other experiences are on the table? Or maybe off the table or under it. The “experiences” life under capitalism has provided.

    You ever think about that? How we’ve all had to do fucktons of emotional labor in order to process living on a dying fucking world to ourselves and each other? Where’s my motherfucking salve for the existential dread and the scars I earned battling it. My mental health at having to make peace with my doom did suffer and I’d like some fucking recompense.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    Since the pandemic started, Starbucks and other shops with cozy seating + WiFi have become essentially “work from home” quasi-third-spaces. I haven’t been everywhere but I noticed it was extreme when I passed through Texas and throughout the Midwest. I am pretty sure it’s an everywhere (in America) thing, plus the rising cost of coffee, and inflation in general

    Faced with this, these cafes have two choices. One is to double down on laptop-free rules, either permanent or on weekends only. This can piss off customers and lose business. The other option is to double down on being an office space with a coffee bar. Starbucks and others have been moving this latter direction for years now. Drive-thru was always a ripoff, but now it is truly beyond the pale to order from these places if you aren’t planning to spend a few hours using the amenities.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    This has been a thing since wifi became free in cafes. In my experience it's a thing around the world in cafes with dedicated seating. Especially cafes with electrical outlets. I don't think anything will make it go away. There's a demand for third spaces that has nowhere else to replace it right now

    https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/coffee-shops-limit-wi-fi-to-discourage-laptop-hobos/

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    The magnitude of it is on a different level since 2020. Dialectics quantitative change producing qualitative change yada yada

    There have always been people on laptops in cafes but WFH introduced a new and mainstream reason to do it on a large scale. Combined with economic challenges in the coffee industry, it’s a no brainer to rebrand as a workspace instead of a specialty coffee shop

    This might be somewhat region dependent. In many cities, if you go in any coffee shop on a weekday, it will have 100% of seats occupied by people on Zoom calls

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Elites just can't help themselves but open their mouths and say the dumbest shit possible. Silence would be a better PR strategy!

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    [–] 19 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    $9 is a can of coffee I can make at home and space out over a week. idgaf about the E X P E R I E N C E

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Where?

    No really where? A can of like folgers or maxwell house trash is like $18 here

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    old mate steve jobs would have a field day with music pricing nowadays.

    (also tf is premium experience, it's a coffee with socket plug)

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    https://investor.starbucks.com/news/financial-releases/news-details/2026/Starbucks-Reports-Q2-Fiscal-Year-2026-Results/default.aspx

    10% margin. 90 cents out of every $9 coffee cup is going directly into shareholder finances. That's not beginning to account for the standard exec salaries and other profit embezzlement.

    20% operating margin overseas btw.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Honestly I'm shocked it's not higher with what their prices are.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    That's where massively overinflated exec salaries, "contractors" conveniently owned by shareholders and their friends, financial tomfoolery, etc. come in.

    I'd actually argue most of the overinflated price in companies comes from these "willing inefficiencies" that rich people use to siphon profit off into their own pockets specifically because only getting 10% of the free money isn't enough and the greed can never end.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Oh for sure, there was that study on the price hikes during the supply chain disruptions when COVID really started to kick off that found that 60% of the price increases were attributable entirely to naked corporate greed.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago*

    The Arrested Development joke is gonna be real.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    I think the possibilities of why he's said this are between:

    A. He's trying to find a diplomatic way of saying 'We want more money; suck it up'

    or

    B. He does actually believe what he's saying because he's as detached from the average person as any other billionaire

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    As all these companies are pushing towards the right side of the supply-demand curve thingy, they're getting more per customer and less customers.

    Liberals call this "economic efficiency" and remark that they are seeing growth. Others might call it "less production" and remark that this counts as degrowth.

    As a crisis of overproduction brews, the GDP numbers go up and investment money chases after plentiful profits.

    Yet, populism keeps growing more popular. Do the poors not see? All is well under the bourgeois heavens!

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    Isn’t Starbucks on the BDS list anyway

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    Nobody should be going to Starbucks.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    I can make my own coffee thank you very little. Best cup of coffee I ever had was from beans I ground in a burlap sack with a hammer because I accidentally bought whole coffee beans instead of ground coffee, put in a Moka pot on a camping stove brewed on the sidewalk when I was homeless. Fresh beans, coarse ground, perfect extraction method using fresh clean water. Very easy to do.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Same guy who "super commutes" 1000 miles on a company jet, btw.

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