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how concerning is it if one of my professors really really likes Charles de Gaulle (lemmy.ml)
submitted 5 months ago by to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
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Like genuine glazing of this man. All I know is that he was a French nationalist and I think liking that is suspicious.

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[–] 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Constantly bring up the 1961 Paris massacre like you're a Lemmitor and it's Tiananmen Square.

Only in this case French people actually did grow up not knowing anything about it. The media only reported three deaths and they stopped people from examining the archives until 1998. (See also this Michael Haneke film.)

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    • [–] 25 points 5 months ago

    he was the ruler during the Algerian war of independence

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    [–] 23 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    I don't trust anyone who had a NATO aircraft carrier named after them.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    De Gaulle refused fiercely entry into NATO, believing in independence under the dissuasive power of it's own nuclear weaponry. The rationale was also that by being both independent and a nuclear power, France would have a real say into to which countries to extend that nuclear "umbrella" outside of the "allied" sphere.

    Like there where two Pétain (WW1 and Vichy), there are two De Gaulle, the fierce leader of WW2 and the reactionary repressor of May 1968.

    But then, when in doubt he questioned his people, and the people said "no more", he retired - which is quite astounding really.

    It's an important, and unusual, politician of the 2nd half of the 20th century. In my book, the way he handled Algeria's war to independence checks his overall balance as " fucking very bad guy" tho.

    [It is only much, much later, under Sarkozy, that the French military command integrated into NATO. Pretty sure the old general is still spinning in his grave]. Hated the UN, too.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Or an airport

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    What about Space Ships ?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Most space agencies name crewed spacecraft, probes, rovers, telescopes, etc after fairly non-controversial scientists or concepts. It could be argued that the space shuttle Columbia and Apollo 11 command module Columbia were named after Columbus, but technically they were named in honour of the first American ship to circumnavigate the world, so that's more of a grey area.

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    • [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    De Gaulle is one of those figures who does kind of have to be admired just for his massive brass balls imo

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    [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    concerning.

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    [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Is your professor Quebecois by chance? They love his ass lol

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    [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I like that he was one of the first to recognize the PRC just to piss of Amerikkka but he's a basically a pragmatic fascist soooo

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