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Senate Democrats are cautiously optimistic about a potential agreement to fund the Department of Homeland Security. But it's far from a done deal.

As negotiations ramp up on Capitol Hill to end the Department of Homeland Security shutdown, Senate Democrats seem to be clinging to a particular word: reforms.

It was a term party leaders used in the context of Immigration and Customs Enforcement nearly two dozen times during a March 24 news conference.

The refrain threw cold water on a new GOP compromise to fund the critical agency — minus ICE's enforcement and removal operations — and end a crisis that has upended air travel across the country.

"Democrats are continuing to push for modest reforms," Washington Sen. Patty Murray, the top Democrat on the Senate Appropriations Committee, told reporters. "The current Republican offer in front of us does not do that."

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[-] ytsedude@lemmy.world 151 points 1 month ago

"Democrats are continuing to push for modest reforms" is the most 2026 quote I've ever read.

[-] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

"Will they capitulate at the smallest change and a promise of republicans maybe, possibly, potentially sneezing at the thought of doing anything different? Stay tuned...."

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 45 points 1 month ago

Tomorrow: "In exchange for a pinky swear from congressional Republicans that a vote for moderate reforms would be held sometime in the next year, Democrats have given in to all Republican demands and passed the funding bill with no changes."

[-] archonet@lemy.lol 20 points 1 month ago

The day after: "Republicans break pinky swear -- "No one could have seen this coming" says Fetterman; Democrats sigh, throw up their hands, and collectively go 'whaddayagonnadoaboutit?'; Schumer writes strongly worded letter."

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 18 points 1 month ago

Idk. At this point fetterman would fully be voting gop

[-] Tilgare@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

And yet that is all it takes to grind this government to a halt - they ask for basically nothing at all and still, they are given no quarter. They should almost all be fired, the red hats should be just as mad at their idiot congresspeople for accomplishing nothing.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

"Look at those stupid idiots, trying"

[-] ytsedude@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago
[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 month ago

No but that won't stop people from singing their praises here :/

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[-] AlexSage@piefed.social 65 points 1 month ago

I don't understand how requiring federal agents to show their face while working in an official capacity unless the situation requires to be covered for safety reasons is controversial. If they aren't doing anything illegal, why do they feel the need to cover up like robbers?

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 27 points 1 month ago

Their demands are just have ice follow the same rules as police, which they already have to do. Which is extra ironic as it's not like it's done anything to help with how much the police abuse citizens

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

They're trying to save ICE for use during a Democratic administration. This is how Senate Democrats are calculating their politics. They're approaching this from the angle that the current admin is ruining ICE.

Like, they fundamentally support Iran war and regime change, and only oppose that this guy is doing it so badly.

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 month ago

Exactly. But others in this thread are using it as examples of how hard the dems are fighting for the people. Not to actually help us mind you just to make optics better

[-] uberdroog@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago

Shut down airports .. what are we even talking about...shut it all down for the next 3 years...there is 0 room for negotiations until this administration is held to account and trials begin.

[-] Jimbabwe@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Seriously. As much as the shit stains in charge are fucking everything up, I’d gladly endure a total shutdown of society as a whole if that’s what it takes to cut this cancerous corruption out.

[-] triptrapper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I'm not making excuses for the dems complete lack of backbone, or their complicity in all the current horrors, but I do think this conversation should always acknowledge that many millions of (poor, undocumented, disabled) people would be utterly fucked during a total shutdown.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Not as fucked as they'd be if we did a shutdown and then ended it in exchange for nothing whatsoever.

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[-] FancyPantsFIRE@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

Don’t worry guys, Schumer has a proven ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, no chance this doesn’t end in some kind of capitulation that fails to get any concessions.

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

Preemptive "fuck you, Chuck" for when he caves in.

[-] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 month ago

Y'all remember 5 years ago when all these shitstains couldn't wear a mask to protect people from a plague? Suddenly they can breathe through them just fine.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago

I don't think their face coverings are N95 tho.

Those fabric face coverings were illegal where mask mandates were in effect on public transportation in my city.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

"Push for moderate reforms" where the complete removal of the ICE agency and build-up of a new replacement is needed.

And they think this will go well with voters?

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Now is not the time to criticize Democrats, it's an election year! I expect you to do all campaigning when it matters least. /s

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago

Democrats are fighting for no masks and that ICE actually has to have real warrants.

In meetings with lawmakers, White House officials have demonstrated an openness to at least some of the concessions Democrats want. They've committed to expanding the use of body-worn cameras, reforming agent trainings and bolstering requirements for officers to identify themselves when conducting immigration enforcement. Pain points have remained, however, over masking and warrants.

[-] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 month ago

Which is fine and dandy but ignores the fact that ICE is a literal gestapo that needs to be wholesale dismantled not made marginally less bad.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

You're not wrong, they should be doing way more. Trump and fellow republicans won't even agree to that when their own base isn't betting paid.

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 month ago

Dems love to do nothing but put lipstick on the pig.

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[-] BigMacHole 20 points 1 month ago

Have Republicans tried PROMISING to MAYBE think about SOME word like Reforms if they Pass the Bill with NO Changes? That USUALLY works Pretty well on Democrats!

[-] YerLam@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Another sacred unbreakable pinky promise?

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They don't even have to break any promises! Just promise to hold a vote for whatever the Democrats are wanting at a later date, then vote against it when the time comes. Worked great last time!

[-] daannii@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

If shmucker lets the save act pass. I swear to God...

[-] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Well, I'm sure the SAVE act would really make the Baileys feel more safe.

[-] BC_viper@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

I can't wait for them to end the shutdown with absolutely nothing to show for it again. Useless twats.

[-] how_we_burned@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Yup fetterman and some other traitors will vote republican rendering all of this political theatre.....

[-] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago

Everyone ready to get violent yet?

Absolutely nothing will change until we do. So let's organize.

[-] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago
[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

I said go and get your fucking shine box

[-] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just let the government die at this point, don't vote for any reforms other than abolishment entirely. CBP handled all of it just fine before ICE was even created to do the SAME FUCKING JOB.

The US government needs to be replaced. Along with 99% of Congress. The experiment has failed. Time cut our losses and try again.

[-] Gathorall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

ICE wasn't created to do the same job. It was created because kicking out anyone who cares about rule of law or procedure from CBP would have taken much longer.

ICE was made a fascist strangling arm from the get-go, that's why it is separate.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 month ago

DHS does nothing important and it should never be funded again.

[-] devolution@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Waiting on Fettermann to fuck this up and Schumer to cave.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

We’re at the point that I’m not just certain they are controlled opposition, but I hope they are corrupt and complicit because if they were in fact just this incompetent I think it would cause me to lose somehow more hope in humanity

[-] totesmygoat@piefed.ca 1 points 1 month ago

This is the face of a failed democracy. Those little blue wins. Lol. It's the adjustment the ss needs. Your plans for the no kings picnic. That's a joke. You actually think that is going to stop this?? You really are giving project 2025 it's bloodless coup. Enjoy the fanfiction of 1984 and bridesmaids tail.

[-] Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago

Full funding for every gop wants as long as they promise to smile while doing it.

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Meanwhile, bOtH pArTiEs will continue to pretend that they need a "super majority" to pass legislation, even though they could change this parliamentary rule with a simple majority vote at any time.

Why do they do this? Why do they call the solution the "nuclear option"? why do people fall for this bullshit?

"Oh sorry, we couldn't pass minimum wage, we need a super majority for that! We are the labor party uwu."

"Oops! We wanted to make big cuts, but have instead decided to increase spending because of those darn Democrats! Gosh darnit!!"

Their full time job is playing golf, getting drunk, and fucking interns. Legislation is boring!

"We are stressed, we need a summer recess after spring recess, right before we have winter break, oh look it's the holidays we need a vacation so tired."

Best benefits in the world though, they are able to pass that somehow.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Both parties refuse to remove the limit because once one of them does, the other has no excuse not to. The GOP knows that they can basically get whatever they want in budget reconciliation (the one bill a year that ignores the filibuster) and the Dems know that if they actually start passing laws people will expect them to improve their material conditions. So it remains a useful fiction for both of them.

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