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[–] [M] 12 points 5 months ago

I believe the community had expressed a lot of valuable ideas here, so I will keep the post. But I am locking the thread because it's just not information given in good faith. That's not to say that the points are all wrong, these can be debated. And we did debate. But the infographic itself is border to being just propaganda against a distro that serves well to a lot of users (this is a fact! even if me or you think those users could be served better.)

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  • [–] 163 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    automatically attaching snaps to apt is pretty much the one reason why I'll never use Ubuntu. and now I find out here that they put damn ads in the terminal for "Ubuntu Pro"? oh get fucked Canonical.

    Friends don't let Friends install Ubuntu.

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  • [–] 45 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    My main home server runs Ubuntu - I installed it 15-20 years ago and it's grown into a monster. I've been slowly documenting everything so I can reinstall with Debian. Have to up the priority of that project.

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    [–] 84 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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    [–] 60 points 5 months ago (75 children)

    Strong agree. I use a derivative that blocks snaps instead of direct Kubuntu now, and it wasn't Just because of the snaps.

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  • [–] 36 points 5 months ago (71 children)

    I use a derivative

    Without Ubuntu Pro subscription the entire Universe repository does not receive any security updates by Canonical:

    https://canonical.com/blog/ubuntu-pro-enhanced-security-and-manageability-for-linux-desktop

    You should consider switching to an entirely independent distribution that does not lock security updates behind a paywall, perhaps something based directly on Debian or Fedora.

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  • [–] 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (13 children)

    Update: Correction. While you do get five years of security updates for Universe on an Ubuntu LTS, those are updates done by the ubuntu community, not canonical. To get Universe security updates from Canonical, you do have to sign up to Ubuntu pro, which can be done without any payment, but as I describe in my original comment, does require creating an account.

    While Canonical deserves the criticisms leveled by op (that I agree with), it's also incorrect to say that they lock security updated behind a paywall.

    Anyone that does use Ubuntu gets security updated until they stop supporting that particular release version, which iirc is for six years (I may be wrong, thus is from memory).

    If you want extended security updates for a specific version of the os, you can elect to sign up to Ubuntu pro without paying any money. You do have to make an account, and if you so choose you can populate the account info with garbage info and a disposable email, and you'll get extended security updates for that release version.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (17 children)

    What's a better alternative that uses apt and KDE and has relatively up-to-date packages (other than Debian testing)?

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    [–] 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    the malware one happens in most repos at some point, but the rest is why i dont use ubuntu.

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    [–] 29 points 5 months ago

    The best part of Ubuntu was improving Debian. In the beginning, Debian was a bit ugly and difficult. Ubuntu was competition, and perhaps resources (IDK) directly or indirectly. Debian is much easier to use than it was when Ubuntu was new.

    Ubuntu is taking the RedHat approach (over complicating so that one must buy the support).

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  • [–] 28 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    arch

    bow and arrow

    is this from another dimension?

    Is .gif different there?

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  • [–] 27 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I find it rather interesting that the same author wrote a new article about how to install Ubuntu 24.04 LTS the day after writing about Ubuntu's trust problem, but without mentioning the previous article or any point he previously made...

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago

    Im pretty sure these articles are written with AI. He already uses AI for generating images for the articles too. Like this paragraph from one of the articles.. Who the fudge writes like this?

    Text in image:

    This single question filters out script writers from script engineers. Most beginners write scripts that silently fail. Production scripts at companies like Stripe or Palantir use strict error handling from line one.

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    [–] 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Ironically, just read an article recently about this exact issue.

    https://itsfoss.com/opinion/why-hate-ubuntu/

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    [–] 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Lmao, they put ads in the terminal? Are they pandering to Win11 users?? :)

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    [–] 21 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    is it just me or does especially the text read AI-generated?

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    [–] 14 points 5 months ago

    why is this infographic AI generated and where are the pixels

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago

    Snap is the cancer of Linux. Go work for Micro$lop if you like to disrespect users.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Original at https://www.linuxteck.com/ubuntu-trust-problem-2026/

    I wondered why they didn't mention that the Universe repository comes without any form of official support and that unpaid community members are expected to cherry pick bug fixes and backport them, usually resulting in no updates, a potential security risk.

    Then I scrolled down and they're suggesting Ubuntu derivatives that are also affected by this (Mint pop). I have the suspicion that they don't mention to make these two look good.

    See https://www.flu0r1ne.net/logs/ubuntu_withholding_universe_security_patches for a somewhat recent (2023) overview on that topic and how Ubuntu Pro plays into this.

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    [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    ads in the terminal lol. back in 2009 I was a gentoo user and was distro shopping. looked at fedora Debian Ubuntu and arch and settled on Debian.

    I don't remember if ubunto had either snap or unity back then... but I saw Ubunto as mainly making Debian easier to use. I was coming from Gentoo... debian was already easy to use 🙂

    now, I use arch btw. switched in 2019 (mainly cause I got new hardware and needed latest releases and latest bugs 🙂)

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    [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    Too many pixels

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    . . . and it all boils down to "Canonical being into rent-seeking and having weird NIH issues that make it push low-quality own software (snaps in the current iteration, but there have been others) over better solutions used by other distros."

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (4 children)
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    [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Oh how I hated it when I experienced the snap shenanigan firsthand.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    With a title like that you know it's going to be 100% FUD. Not that Canonical doesn't deserve some of it.

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    [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Company gonna company. Switch back to Debian and realize most of what Ubuntu did was copy Debian and allow for non free drivers.

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