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[–] 84 points 2 years ago (3 children)

auto manufacturers had violated Washington state’s privacy laws by using vehicles’ on-board infotainment systems to record and intercept customers’ private text messages and mobile phone call logs.

But the appellate judge ruled Tuesday that the interception and recording of mobile phone activity did not meet the Washington Privacy Act’s standard

Privacy is a fundamental human right.

Just not in Usa, as it seems. Here it is indeed the law that needs to be fixed.

https://www.humanrightscareers.com/issues/is-privacy-a-human-right/

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    To be fair, pretty much every government breaks its own rules, particularly when privacy is involved.

    We have the largest and most invasive world governments in the history of the world thanks to the overwhelming technology that allows such a thing. And even governments that pretend to follow the rules just get their buddies in another country to do their dirty work for them. "I can't spy on you, but England can!"

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  • [–] 28 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    the question here is, on it's face does an invasion of privacy constitute an injury? I'd argue that yes, it does. Privacy has inherent value, and that value is lost the moment that private data is exposed. That's the injury that needs to be redressed, regardless of whether or how the exposed data is used after the exposure. There could be additional injury in how the data is used, and that would have to be adjudicated and compensated separately, but losing the assurance that my data can never be used against me because it is only know to me is absolutely an injury in and of itself.

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    [–] 46 points 2 years ago (30 children)

    Disappointing result but this seems like something for the legislature to fix. Courts aren't always the solution, sometimes you have to just fix the damn law.

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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    America sucks. Seriously. I'm just waiting for another country to bring it to the USA, because it seems inevitable.

    People gotta stop putting faith into these ultimately crooked nations.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago

    I mean ok but the fact that your car is spying on you has to break a thousand big tech nda’s

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    I wonder how long until we get to jailbreak our cars just so those cock suckers can’t spy on us.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    This is why I keep my 2006 toyota in tip top shape. I will drive that car as long as I possibly can.

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    One of these companies needs to be beached to prove damages, I guess.

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    So ask the judge why car companies want to track judges?

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Obvious next question: how’s the privacy policy on 3rd party stereo makers like Pioneer, Kenwood, Alpine, Jensen, etc.?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Why risk it? Build your own with a raspberry pi and a touchscreen.

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well.. fuck. More reason to not buy newer cars. At least you Americans are lucky. You can drive a dinosaur if it met with regulations. You technically don't have to buy new cars.. ever.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Setting aside questions of legality, it seems kind of like it wouldn't encourage someone to purchase their cars.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    Not a problem! Jack used car prices up to new cars, prevent public infrastructure and provide benefits for cars, all car manufacturers have similar privacy policies. Combine all three and you have customers that need a car to live, might as well get a new one if decade old ones are the same price or have no stock, and suddenly there isn't much choice.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    That only helps when there's viable alternatives. Since pretty much all auto manufacturers do something like this it's not really a distinguishing feature.

    And even if it was: how much worse/more expensive would a car need to be for you to not pick it over one that reads your text messages. And then ask the same question not for "you", but for the average consumer. Then be sad ...

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Well I am still so happy that I decided specifically to get a newish car that doesn't have a touchscreen or any of this nonsense.

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    [–] 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It can't be illegal because you agree to allow them when you purchase the new vehicle. It's all there in the T&C and PP, which no one ever reads. Don't like it? Don't buy new cars. I won't.

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Wait, how are CARS intercepting mobile activities?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Just gotta get someone to hack their system. Then it'll be easy to prove damages

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