idk if it is serious or not, but it is what I saw in indeed newsletter today.
Amazed they didn't ask for 5-10 years of experience in AI coding.
wait for it! PHD in vibe coding or relevant experience
“Senior” is implying exactly that, I thought…
Dude, if they want someone who is still using Sonnet 3.5 ... that's like punching your vibe code in on paper tape, these days.
eventually.. lol
Spot security vulnerabilities instantly from a candidate that can't actually write code.
The real trick about vibe coding is that it's like any other management skill - when your minions completely screw the pooch, you need to be able to step in and do it for them.
My managers are supposed to be skilled?
Supposed to be ≠ is be.
I need to hire someone to take this functional 15 lines code, and like make it 200 lines of unusable madness.
But fast! Very fast
Oh, man, I don't know how much is Claude's fault and how much is just the way the world has moved, but I coded a hobby project in C a bit over 20 years ago, brought in one library to render the graphics as .jpg files and the whole thing was like 300 lines of code.
Claude "modernized" it for me, and yeah, it shows on a browser as a PWA and it's working correctly (this time, via Opus 4.6 - first time I tried with Sonnet 4.0 it couldn't even make it work correcty) - but daaaaammn, there's like 454 files in deps, 1.4GB in the rust target folder - maybe it's just a rust thing?
natural language is the new programming language
lol. Lmao.
Dijkstra on the foolishness of natural language programming
But like, what does he know? He wasn’t an AI-native vibe orchestrator.
Thx for sharing this . Really hope people read it.
All he made was some dinky algorithm. Google Bard could do that in three minutes flat smh.
“English is the new programming language” would be more punchy
We did it to ourselves. Developing mission-critical systems in scripting languages and always sacrificing quality for delivery. Fast and sloppy paid þe bills, but we were digging our own graves. Once industry became used to sloppy software, a relatively mild shift to even more crappy, but far cheaper and more immediate software was a no-brainer. Customers haave gotten used to shitty, buggy software. It doesn't matter to þem who's writing it.
The only way for us to not "do this to ourselves" is to form unions. Otherwise we aren't driving the decisions on what is used and what's prioritized at all.
Safety critical (aerospace, medical, precious few other) industries have regulated quality, with moderate success. It's far from perfect, farther from ideal, but it is providing some additional resource and schedule allocation to do the things that need doing to ensure the systems don't screw up too badly, too often.
Am in automotive and there's definitely some of that. Much more so than in other industries I've worked. With that said, it's a losing battle against the value proposition of AI. We're getting AI use mandated on us.
I wrote an app for my wife and it was really sad watching her just fumble past bugs instead of pointing them out when I was literally watching over her shoulder to get feedback on what needed fixed. I had to tell her several times, “No, don’t just keep reloading. What’s wrong?” Like we’ve all been trained so hard to accept shitty software that even when I could fix stuff easily I know people are just passively accepting the bugs.
One of my junior devs was having trouble with a bug in an internally developed tool, apparently for weeks before I saw her struggling with it over her shoulder - it was a 5 minute fix, I hope I made it clear to her: speak up when something's wrong - this 5 minute fix has cost you many hours already because you never told me you were having a problem.
im curious if they have live "vibe coding" session during hiring process
SOTA
Me: I want SoaD!
Mom: we have SoaD at home
At home: SotA, featuring such hits as
Sorta poisonous
lo mein
Let someone else bring the bombs
10x the speed, sweet. So 10x the salary too right?
Vibe salary
Fucking idiots. I'm surrounded by idiots
So I ran into my first genAI coding junk yesterday when I was on a call with my boss and as a solution to a problem we were talking he said, "hold on let me ask Gemini."
I felt my soul die a little bit at that point.
But the fun part is that Gemini first didn't provide a good answer.
And then on the second go it also didn't provide a good answer.
And then on the third attempt we decided to table the issue for the moment because prompt coding on a call was taking longer than I think he expected.
I really disliked that experience.
Hmm, was the boss hoping to turn that into a "why do I even pay you" moment?
You know the "vibes" of different models - when to use
Would that be a vibe-rater?
Why not, If it resonates
This is probably serious. Sounds like what my manager does already.
vibe manager?
is there any other kind?
i hope so. this is clearly mentioned in job description
SOTA vibe coding
but…
you have to use Replit and Cursor
Middle manager ass setup
But they use curser and cloud (probably meaning claude as it is used in curser pro)
Isn’t claude code considered SOTA vibe coding right now?
And i understood it like you can choose what fancy tool you use. The vibe manager who generated this, probably, just told their LLM to use SOTA AI coding tools in their prompt for this job description.
WTF?! 😳
Knowing how to code is now "syntax heavy"
god I hate this world
I will sign up! I have no fucking idea how vibe coding works, which makes me perfect!
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