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Musk fails to block California data disclosure law he fears will ruin xAI (arstechnica.com)
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Elon Musk’s xAI has lost its bid for a preliminary injunction that would have temporarily blocked California from enforcing a law that requires AI firms to publicly share information about their training data.

xAI had tried to argue that California’s Assembly Bill 2013 (AB 2013) forced AI firms to disclose carefully guarded trade secrets.

The law requires AI developers whose models are accessible in the state to clearly explain which dataset sources were used to train models, when the data was collected, if the collection is ongoing, and whether the datasets include any data protected by copyrights, trademarks, or patents. Disclosures would also clarify whether companies licensed or purchased training data and whether the training data included any personal information. It would also help consumers assess how much synthetic data was used to train the model, which could serve as a measure of quality.

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[–] 227 points 5 months ago (1 child)

carefully guarded trade secrets

AKA stolen content

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  • [–] 65 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    AKA Social Security data stolen by DOGE

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  • [–] 49 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Don't forget his child porn image generator, what sort of training data did he use to get that result?

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  • [–] -2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    If you ask an AI image generator for a bed shaped like a pineapple, it'll give you one without having a single pineapple-shaped bed in the training data. It has beds and pineapples and it can mash the two together.

    If you've got naked adults in the training data and you've got children in the training data, it's going to be able to generate child porn.

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    • [–] 102 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Oh no how unfortunate.

    Why is his CSAM generator still in app stores?

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  • [–] 48 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Who is going to remove it? Trump's friend Tim Cook? Trump's friend Jeff Bezos? Trump's friend Sundar Pichai? Or Trump's friend Satya Nadella?

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Monopolists don't want to lose their monopolies.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    Which of why they are all Trump's friend. They are the friend of who ever is in power and doesn't get in the way (or helps) make the stock price larger.

    If Trump disappeared tomorrow and was replaced with a progressive they would change their tune immediately.

    Corporations don't have morals and have no qualms about being hypocritical. If they are publically traded the only language they speak is "stock go up" and "stock go down".

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    • [–] 77 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide, Elon.

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    • [–] 38 points 5 months ago

    Hey, maybe Musk is even right that this will lead to the death of xAI; I do not see a downside in this.

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    [–] 37 points 5 months ago

    I DONT care WHERE they got the Data ALL I want is to be Able to make ACCURATE CSAM!

    -Elon Musk and Republicans!

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    [–] 35 points 5 months ago*

    Xitter or xAI shouldn‘t be allowed anyway and California cyberlaws are bonkers. I would hope both instances tear each other apart.

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    [+] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    what’s stripping these companies lying about their financial data to tax authorities?

    there are lots of self-report mechanisms that we use… it’s just not worth the blowback of non-disclosure to lie about it. some people do, and sometimes they get caught; not always, but overall it’s a net benefit to transparency

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  • [+] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    for large companies, i think you’re probably right… but there are plenty of transactions that happen cash. i think it’s a case of not letting perfect be the enemy of better. some people might lie, and if they get caught that should have some punishment… but we hope that most people don’t lie, because the risk just isn’t worth it

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    • [–] 21 points 5 months ago

    Why is that even an option for an illegal alien though

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    [–] 15 points 5 months ago

    Oh no! Better kys Elon!

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    [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    He probably doesn’t want to disclose that CSAM was included.

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    [–] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    California, the EU of America.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)
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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    has california tried to spy on our chats too?

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    They're working up to it with "age verification" bullshit.

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    you have an article to go with that or is it just your grumbling

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  • [–] -4 points 5 months ago

    so, i see that the article mentioned discord's leak, but it did not say that california was going after discord next. that was kind of my point.

    yeah, it's identity verification, not age verification, but once they have gone the step of ID verification, why do they need to bother snooping the chats? they already know who you are. they can just pull your online ID and whatever is associated with it. it's one step further in the game, if they get it we've lost whatever anonymity we thought we had (unless we pile the entire family's devices onto one ID and that's an anonymizing tactic but not great).

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    • [–] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Some of it will have DOGE as a source.

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    [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Awww. Too bad.. so sad...

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    [–] 6 points 5 months ago*

    Ah, finally, someone starts it. A person is allowed to say publicly what they want. But a LLM is not a person but a commercial interest. The LLM should never have been allowed to public from start, as the misinformation machines they are currently. EU, please follow up.

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    [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    The more you can rattle his cage the better

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    [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Oh no! Anyways

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