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[–] 147 points 6 months ago (77 children)

So long as there's a proper primary I don't see the harm in this, not really. I can't see her running a good enough campaign to make it through the primaries, at least not without also having a good enough campaign to beat the fascist party after Trump.

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  • [–] 49 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Just to terrify you a little bit. In the 2020 election, Harris and Biden only had one candidate that regularly polled worse than they did, which was a culty Tulsi. And if you remember, out of that large field, Biden won.

    The DNC has a gigantically fat thumb on the scales.

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  • [–] 46 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Three words: Hillary Rodham Clinton

    It sure looked like Bernie was gonna kick her butt until the DNC decided they didn’t like a Democratic Socialist possibly winning. Debbie Wasserman Schultz resigned for a reason.

    I don’t trust the primaries to be fair. There is too much money and power at stake to let “the people” actually decide the candidates. To me it’s the major reason everyone says both parties are the same. It’s because both candidates are picked by the same people, at least at this level. Yes I know they aren’t the same, especially now. But have you ever noticed how feckless the Democratic leadership seems to be? It’s because the billionaires are really the ones in power.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago

    The only purpose of the staggered primary is for them to slowly manufacture your consent for who they want. The only way we're going to get an honest primary is if the entire country did it on one day like we do the general

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    a regular primary with enough debates, and where superdelegates are shun till the end, should be bare minimum

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    [–] 86 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Are you fucking stupid? You lost to Donald Fucking Trump—you know, the racist, fascist pedophile rapist? You lost to that guy, and you'd be running against his specter and his legacy, the racist and xenophobic sentiments that still run deep in this country.

    What is uniting the American people, however, is a rising class consciousness, not establishment Dems like you. We already tried voting for "not-Trump," and y'all squandered the opportunity to appease the wealthy, expand the police state, send more bombs to Israel, and treat all the people shouting "Danger!" like children, rather than securing our democracy and standing against genocide.

    Fuck. Right. Off.

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    [–] 50 points 6 months ago (16 children)

    I mean, she'd be better than Trump. But that's such a ridiculously low bar.

    Surely the Dems can come up with a better candidate that her, Gavin Newsom, or some similarly uninspiring/greasy candidate. Right? Right???

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  • [–] [S] 42 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    That isn't the question, the question is over whether the DNC and the ruling class allow any other candidate to run against Trump.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago

    But Harris is the best candidate… For the interests of the wealthy members of the DNC.

    She will keep things exactly how they are, but act like they have changed for the better. The rich will get richer, and the poor will get assaulted by police.

    Why would the DNC give a single fuck about the desires of anyone but themselves? They suffer no consequences for their actions.

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    Jesus Christ woman, get a fucking clue. You lost the presidency to the worst piece of shit on the face of the planet. Why in the fuck do you think you have any chance against anyone else?

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  • [–] 33 points 6 months ago

    Yeah I knew Democrats were in on this shit but if they run Kamala in 2028 then they're 100% complicit. There's 0% chance she wins

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  • [–] 33 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    So this means JD Vance will be president in 2028?

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    [–] 32 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    People that lose to Donald fucking Trump should fuck off forever.

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  • [–] 29 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I'm once again reminded of the secret attack plan from Blackadder 4.

    Capt. Blackadder: We all climb out of our trenches and march slowly across no man's land?

    Capt. Darling: How do you know that Blackadder? It's classified information.

    Capt. Blackadder: It's what we did the last time, the time before that and the previous fifteen before that.

    General Melchit: Precisely! The absolute last thing the watchful Hun will expect is for us to do the exact same thing as the past seventeen times thus catching him entirely by surprise!

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    [–] 29 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    They'll do everything but what will actually get them elected willingly. Neo-liberals need to wake up and realize it's either going to have progress away from capitalism or just all of us drowning in fascism because they refuse much needed and necessary change.

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    [–] 23 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    People seem to have forgotten the only reason she was the candidate was because Biden dropped out and she was the VP.

    She got practically no votes in the primaries.

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    [–] 23 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    No. Just no. Other countries cn rise above misogyny, but not us. Dems need to drop this whole "please the right" schtick too. We need someone actually progressive, someone who doesn't ride the Israeli money train, and alas - is male. Bonus points for not playing the "we need to forgive and forget" card either. It didn't work, and a lot of these assholes are just regurgitating the South. They lost, but never faced punishment. If we let racism slide, we let them build confidence and organize.

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    [–] 23 points 6 months ago

    Get. The. FUCK. Out.

    Don't come back. The country, or what's left of it, can't afford her. She's fine as a milquetoast corporatist, but she has proven she can't do it.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Cute that US still think they will have elections after the orange buffoon. November will be very interesting, and maybe an eye opener for the remaining septics: I'll say it here now, trump is a fascist, a pedophile, a narcissist, and a dictator. He will not leave. He will use putin's playbook. The rest of the world needs to wake up now and consider the US as an antagonist, same as Russia and China. I would be delighted to be wrong, wait and see I guess.

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    [–] 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    If she's nominated, it's a fix. Classic authoritarian playbook: maintain the illusion of democracy by propping up an opponent that you aren't likely to lose to. Then, stuff the ballot boxes anyway.

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    [–] 22 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    If the Democratics run Harris or New some I might actually lose my mind. have we learned nothing from the past decade?

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  • [–] 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Jesus Christ, we don't need Hillary 3.0.

    We need someone who can say something and it's like...actual fucking words that normal people can relate to. Not something that was written in committee by some consultants working off polling.

    "Don't rape kids. Don't violate the Constitution. Everyone gets to vote."

    None of this is complicated.

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    [–] 20 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    I'd still take her over MAGA, any day.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (4 children)
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    [–] 19 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    So far it's Harris and Newsom. Cool. Cool cool cool.

    No, I'm not worried at all. Who said I'm worried?

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    [–] 18 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    Either there will be a socialist president in 2028 or democracy will be dissolved by 2036.

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    [–] 18 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Please no. I was excited for her last election but that failed and now I don't wanna hear from her ever again.

    Are you shitting me that the dnc (or should I say the billionaires backing the dnc) can't find someone else???

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    [–] 18 points 6 months ago

    Yeah cause we want a former prosecutor to head up the ACAB crowd. Democratic party is shit.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    So sick of the US's neo liberals masquerading as left. A lot can change in a few years hopefully there will be enough change. In the end all that matters is if people wake up to the lies before it too late. It's incredible how bad it has to get before people wake up.

    The MAGA movement is crumbling but only time will tell if it's enough. A lot of delusional neo liberals think things will just go back to normal if they get in office next term

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    [–] 16 points 6 months ago (23 children)

    Oh for fuck sakes! C'mon lady! Sacrifice! Let a new face do it! There's 300 million of us. I'm sure someone else can be better than you know who. Go do something else to help democracy. I'd vote Beyonce.

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    [–] 16 points 6 months ago* (4 children)

    Imagine losing twice the orange shit heel. Like getting back up, looking in the mirror, taking full stock of all your pro cop and ideal stances and thinking "no I was on to something the first time. I'll make them see"

    I can't anymore with this place. Release me

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